Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Hmmm I need to stick a 90 wheel arch to the ali surface. Only part of the arch has a "return" the centre part is trimmed flush (as is the ali panel) to allow suspension flex. I therefore really need to "Stick" the 90 arch on, I have tried silicon, some black go I was told "Was the Biz" er...no it wasn't I want it "Bonded" on sowell, that a small 'atomic device' or a very very long session with a Stanley Knife is required to 'remove it' ..... so Suggestions please ? And where to get it Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRK Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Hi Nige I guess silicon is more of a sealer than adhesive. Have you looked at "grab adhesives" ? I have used a product called Laybond Gripfill from screwfix.com around the house and its basically a combined filler/glue. Waterproof etc, smells a bit like evo-stick and is permanent once it sets. Screwfix is a useful resource to see whats out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 epoxy not do the job? clean both the surfaces until the ali has no oxde on it and bond them with epoxy- if they stick aircraft wings on with the stuff then it must be strong enough. Altertnatively go to your local builders marchants and buy smoe non water based gripfill. its the proper version of carp like "no more nails" and really properly sticks- its what i use to stick sheets of 8 x 4 stainlees steel sheets to the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 2 pack bonder ............... not cheap though.............. and its removal will be slightly more complex than using stanley knife........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 2 pack bonder Name make where I can I buy it Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_neutron Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 2 pack bonder Name make where I can I buy it Nige Double bubble .. 2 pack bonder dries solid ... Thus doesn't flex which isn't good either. Also doesn't like water all that much. Will work for a couple of weeks, but not a long term solution. Stainless allen head bolts. At least it will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSheds Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Double bubble .. 2 pack bonder dries solid ... Thus doesn't flex which isn't good either. Also doesn't like water all that much. Will work for a couple of weeks, but not a long term solution. Stainless allen head bolts. At least it will work. I have recently tried some of this FLEX-EPOXY EXTRA STRONG GLUE WELD PLASTIC - eBay Item 360040064535 but not in the situation you describe. It does seem to stick like normal Araldite, but is flexible - it's holding my Honda fairing together at the mo... Might work? I presume you have tried Tiger-Bond or Sikaflex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 My money would be on epoxy resin...which i guess is what this 2 pack bonda stuff is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Sikaflex is the stuff to use. It comes in tubes like sillic@nt and unlike sillic@nt it can be overpainted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinks Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Sikaflex is the stuff to use. It comes in tubes like sillic@nt and unlike sillic@nt it can be overpainted. Sikaflex is awesome stuff! That is if you never intend on getting them off ever again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEAFERS RULE!!! Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Tiger seal! Similar to sikaflex just as claggy! I work in the HGV trade you can repair owt with the stuff! Got me out of a few scrapes on breakdowns at the side of the road just be warned once its stuck thats it dont get it on yer hands either it will stain em, for a smooth finish apply mothers/wifes/parteners best rubber marigold to hand spray a bit of brake cleaner on it n run ya finger over the top job sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticbadger Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Search the net for 'Plexus' (www.itwplexus.com) adhesives. They do an adhesive specifically for bonding plastics to aluminium. They are mostly Methacrylate based and cure flexible. Most car manufacturers use their products for gluing together bumpers and stuff (I think the Lotus Elise chassis is glued together with Plexus). If you can get hold of the stuff it makes most epoxies and Sikaflex look like they're for gluing sparkles to birthday cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Another vote for Sikaflex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefcoL Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Search the net for 'Plexus' (www.itwplexus.com) adhesives. They do an adhesive specifically for bonding plastics to aluminium. They are mostly Methacrylate based and cure flexible. Most car manufacturers use their products for gluing together bumpers and stuff (I think the Lotus Elise chassis is glued together with Plexus). If you can get hold of the stuff it makes most epoxies and Sikaflex look like they're for gluing sparkles to birthday cards. these maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Double bubble .. 2 pack bonder dries solid ... Thus doesn't flex which isn't good either. Also doesn't like water all that much. Will work for a couple of weeks, but not a long term solution. Stainless allen head bolts. At least it will work. 2 pack bonder as used by leading car manufacturers like Audi etc for bonding aluminum bodies is a flexible bonder that is stronger than the material that it bonds. sikaflex is not anywhere near as tough .................. Nige......................I will get a product name for you, but I know that its about £60 a throw................. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmatt Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Definately Sikaflex but you really need a sika gun to put it on neatly. Also you can get a primer for most substances. we use it at work for everything from expansion gaps in concrete rafts to sticking number plates to trailers! It sticks like hell, be warned get it on your skin and nothing short of petrol gets it off!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 just bought some "sticks like sh*t" from the local builders merchants They're not wrong it really does stick everywhere- particularly on your best coat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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