bosbeer Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I am preparing my Landy for an overland trip. I wass looking on tthe net at devices to losen the bead of the tire should it need repairing. I found what seems to me to be the smallest , and simplest one available on (www.beadbreaker.co.uk ). does anyone have experience with this product , What is your favourite method to lock the bead again? And where can I find a decent tire repair kit in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I have a set of tyreplyers that I got in Australia. However, I have never used the beadbreaker, just use a Hi Lift off the front of the car to break the bead. I must admit though the tyreplyers kit is very comprehensive and usefull. HTH Ivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I (sort of) know a chap, Dave White, who has used "Tyre Pliers" in anger on the Austrailian Outback Challenge, two years running I believe now and has nothing but praise for them. If you google for "tire pliers" then the website is pretty much the top result. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac1 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Put the spare tyre on, and drive the landy over the tyre to break the bead. Or a sledge hammer. Both tried and tested! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 For just breaking the bead, then use your hi-lift jack ................ that trick has been used by overlanders for years.............. To re-seal the bead use lighter fluid ............... it needs a bit of courage , but again, works perfectly and is in common use in the states and Oz.............. Alternatively a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tyre works reasonably well provided you have a good compressor.............. Tire pliers are the real deal .................. I have used them in Oz to good effect and they are easy to use................ Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 To re-seal the bead use lighter fluid ............... it needs a bit of courage , but again, works perfectly and is in common use in the states and Oz.............. How does the lighter trick work? Never heard of that! To break the bead I usually hammer the end of the tyre lever between the rim and the bead and then whack it with the ford service tool number 3 (lump hammer). Do this with two levers and you'll soon have the tyre loose. As you'll need to bring levers anyway - and a hammer, you don't need anything else. Regards, G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 How does the lighter trick work? Never heard of that! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Chris Got to try that! Beats my current appraoch of sitting on the tyre and hoping that it works! G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 The Hi-Lift method is easy... Personally, have felt the need to spit 100% Vodka etc in the tyre and light it. Just angle tyre and push down on rim, or like I do rest against car and use a foot to put pressure on wheel. It's worked all the time for me and I've had plenty of practice of the last few months Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco tony Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 it dosent always work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 A few of us tried this at kirton on my wheel, however can i point out that you need to take the valve out, we did not and whilst yes the tyre was actually at the perfect pressure (we carfully calculated the amount of unleaded required vs tyre volume obviously:lol: ) It made one hell of a bang and in hind site probably could have blown the tyre apart. I must say though that the noise without the valve core is nowhere near as good as the one with it Steve I see you have a compressor type pump i only had a foot pump so no amount of ratchet strapping was going to sort it! Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 The Aerosol and lighter looks the best for expedition route. I presume that some aerosols are better than others, but having never played with these and lighters (too poor as a young lad to afford cigs - had a land rover to feed) I wouldn't be sure which would be best. can of wd40? hair spray? A practice session before leaving would be a good idea. G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars L Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Easy start - ether in a spray can is explosive as .... That's what's normally used in Iceland. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abos Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hi lift Jack method --very easy . I dont like the pinch of the foot on the tire wall however I have seen a guy use the beadbreaker in South africa and it looked to be safer for the tire, I looked at the site Click here! Didnt know they were available here. Bosbeer , I would go for the hilift method with the beadbreaker. instead of driving over the tire or sacrificing extra space. Various methods are discussed on the site to re- seat the bead , be careful with the buthane method , as most monkeys spray in to much of the stuff, take the advice of previous post on this topic and you will be fine. I just ordered myself a beadbreaker , and I will attach it to my hi-Lift or just bolt it somewhere ! :Phttp://forums.lr4x4.com/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 The Aerosol and lighter looks the best for expedition route. I presume that some aerosols are better than others, but having never played with these and lighters (too poor as a young lad to afford cigs - had a land rover to feed) I wouldn't be sure which would be best.can of wd40? hair spray? A practice session before leaving would be a good idea. G. Use the butane gas from your camping stove ..................... and yes.................... take the valve core out........... I have used Butane, petrol, and propane .............. they all work OK and all you are doing is expanding the volume of air.......... On a side note ................. PLEASE BE CAREFUL ------------ ITS F'kin DANGEROUS if done incorrectly.... Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac1 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Always be careful when inflating any tires, and always watch as you pump it up for egg's appearing on the sidewalls. I was blowing a loose truck tyre up at work last year and didn't noticed three eggs on the opposite side to where I was. When I did notice my mate went for the valve tool, like a fool i stood holding it. Threw me 6 feet into the workshop shutter when they exploded. It bloody hurt and i couldn't walk for about 4 days, still took nearly an hour to be seen in hospital for the purple and green leg. Thank £*&% it wasn't a split rim..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosbeer Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 Always be careful when inflating any tires, and always watch as you pump it up for egg's appearing on the sidewalls.I was blowing a loose truck tyre up at work last year and didn't noticed three eggs on the opposite side to where I was. When I did notice my mate went for the valve tool, like a fool i stood holding it. Threw me 6 feet into the workshop shutter when they exploded. It bloody hurt and i couldn't walk for about 4 days, still took nearly an hour to be seen in hospital for the purple and green leg. Thank £*&% it wasn't a split rim..... Safer to use a cage when inflating truck or tractor tires, I know a person who suffered a broken jaw and lost all his teeth when the truck tire exploded , another person with a broken back , now in a wheelchair when a tractor or tire burst. Good news that you didnt suffer permanent damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 The tyre lever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac1 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Safer to use a cage when inflating truck or tractor tires, I know a person who suffered a broken jaw and lost all his teeth when the truck tire exploded , another person with a broken back , now in a wheelchair when a tractor or tire burst. Good news that you didnt suffer permanent damage Agreed on the tyre cage, although we don't have one. I now either inflate them attatched to the vehicle and stand away or stand the other side of the wall when they're loose. Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I will vouch for the Tire Pliers, very easy to use and not too pricey. They will fit wheels from 11" to 16" rim. I bought mine several years ago at Billing and have used them lots. Think the supplier was Terrain Masters or something like that. I used to use the hi-lift method, it's not as easy as the pliers and if the tyre is wet or muddy, it can slip. I have first hand experience of what a hi-lift handle can do to one's face, I don't fancy that much pain again. Fortunately this did not happen changing a tyre. Also the foot of a hi-lift puts a lot of pressure on the structural side wall of the tyre in a way the tyre is not designed to be subjected to, this cannot be a good thing. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abos Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I will vouch for the Tire Pliers, very easy to use and not too pricey. They will fit wheels from 11" to 16" rim. I bought mine several years ago at Billing and have used them lots. Think the supplier was Terrain Masters or something like that.I used to use the hi-lift method, it's not as easy as the pliers and if the tyre is wet or muddy, it can slip. I have first hand experience of what a hi-lift handle can do to one's face, I don't fancy that much pain again. Fortunately this did not happen changing a tyre. Also the foot of a hi-lift puts a lot of pressure on the structural side wall of the tyre in a way the tyre is not designed to be subjected to, this cannot be a good thing. Michael The beadbreaker solves those problems when using your hi-lift http://www.beadbreaker.co.uk Received mine this morning , I will get to use it later tonight , because the stealer reckons my wifes tire needs complete replacing ( it was punctured by a nail.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Well, before reading this thread I had never heard of the Beadbreaker, but having looked at the website I thought 'Hmmm, that looks good, me like. I could make one of those myself.' Then I took in the price and realised I couldn't be a**ed to make one. Then I caught 'must have one' fever. It turned up today very shiny and red, and rather well made. I have a few tyres to swap this weekend so I'll soon know if it's any good. I think it must weigh more than the tyre pliers but if it's any easier to use it'll take it's place on board the Ninety. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 When a Hi-Lift works perfectly well at breaking a bead every time with little effort I can't see the point in buying one of these beadbreakers. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 I have been looking at this but don't really know how easy and usefull it is going to be More details here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 I removed a Simex entirely from the rim today with only a highlift and two puny tyre levers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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