Mo Murphy Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 That's a bit rum, Ralph, good luck with the change. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Never drink while you work The rum comes afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave K Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Hope you sort it out, Ralph! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 todays instalment --- floor panels & some TB connections removed/disconnected, tomorrow is props off & TB lever housing off & then mounts & split box from engine as shown in here haven't ordered any parts yet as I don't know what I'm going to need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 as shown in here Yes, but that's a nice shiny, posh 300TDi Ralph Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 so it's the same method that we used 2 years ago good enough then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks906 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 wats the fluid like in the clutch fluid res if its a grey color the internal are fooked an you need a newy either the top or bottom one if it is it will give the affect that the clutch is busted dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 If this was a thread about Puma's I wonder who would be along to sing the praises of his 200Tdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 If this was a thread about Puma's I wonder who would be along to sing the praises of his 200Tdi I'd still rather have mine than a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 wats the fluid like in the clutch fluid res if its a grey color the internal are fooked an you need a newy either the top or bottom one if it is it will give the affect that the clutch is busted dave fliud is fine, system works & no leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 18, 2008 Author Share Posted October 18, 2008 Split the gearbox/engine this morning & found the culprit, pressure cover was intact but the centre of the friction plate could be moved about, after removing both parts, this is the problem 1st photo centre of friction plate ripped out,all the springs are intact unbroken. 2nd photo close up of friction plate centre. can't get a new clutch until monday as my local parts man is away. also found the crank spigot bush was totally destroyed too, no damage to the gearbox 1st motion shaft though, release bearing is a bit rumbly but no play & clutch operating fork [Les H type] is intact. in all a good mornings work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 I think you could say that looks a bit knackered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Oh dear, what a shame. I've never seen one tear where yours has - the centre hub normally breaks free. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 I would suggest too much power Ralph... Ease off that right foot matey ! Well and truly foobard... Nothing to do with the weight in the truck is it ? Hope it all goes together ok fer yas.. Come to think of it, why are clutch plates made as they are? Why can't they be one "Nige" thickness of steel with the splined centre and two faces of slip material ? What do the springs actually do ? It's all slip or grip so surely they can't be essential ! Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 18, 2008 Author Share Posted October 18, 2008 can't be the weight of my 110 as all 130 200/300Tdi's use that friction plate & they run at much higher gross weights than me. less power than a 300Tdi too, it was fine on the drive from my mate Ade's [Earl on here] via Swindon to here. the springs absorbed driveline vibrations & also meant to help absorb snatch loading on the clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 What make is that busted plate Ralph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 18, 2008 Author Share Posted October 18, 2008 What make is that busted plate Ralph? OEM LR130 heavy duty 8 spring friction plate by Valeo. it's only done around 33,400 miles & just over 2 years. in one of my photo's it shows a made date of 22/01/06 I don't know if AP Driveline [formerly Borg & Beck] do a similar type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 the springs absorbed driveline vibrations & also meant to help absorb snatch loading on the clutch. So why doesn't a TD5 have springs in the clutch plate ? Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 18, 2008 Author Share Posted October 18, 2008 don't know, different system with a dual mass flywheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 The TD5 engine has a dual-mass flywheel. The plate is solid, but the flywheel is what takes up the shock loading when the clutch is released. TD5 plate- The plate is sitting on the cover the wrong way up - before some clever dick spots it and thinks I put it together wrong Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 How is a dual mass flywheel different ? Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 just found this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Do you know Ralph that I was talking to Pauly who now does my work for me and also works on Rachels Discovery. Her Discovery did 160,000 on the original clutch, she did a lot of motorway work. However Pauly passed the comment the he has never changed a Tdi clutch because it was worn out. Always, like yours and Rachels the centers rip out. Why anybody ? mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Thanks Luke.... So one way or another there are some virations and oscillations that need to be smoothed out. Hey ho... Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 18, 2008 Author Share Posted October 18, 2008 Do you know Ralph that I was talking to Pauly who now does my work for me and also works on Rachels Discovery.Her Discovery did 160,000 on the original clutch, she did a lot of motorway work. However Pauly passed the comment the he has never changed a Tdi clutch because it was worn out. Always, like yours and Rachels the centers rip out. Why anybody ? mike I've only changed previous clutches because it was slipping or just as in this case not working, seems strange that the so called heavy duty 130 unit [as mine is] breaks up like it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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