Ben Jordan Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Following on from my Ultimate engine post. I have now decided that i do not need a big horsepower engine I need a reliable engine that will produce a respectable amount of power/torque and last quite a few years, The money i then save over a higher spec enine can then be spent on axles etc. It should be transferable between land rovers but i cant see this as i problem if it fits into one of them. I will be covering about 5000 miles a year tops with the odd occasional long trip and it needs to be able to deliver the goods off road. I have put my suggestions in the poll above I would like the engine to be new or rebuilt to a standard better than new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Go 3.9V8, enjoy the V8 till it becomes socially unacceptable to own such a vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jordan Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 Go 3.9V8, enjoy the V8 till it becomes socially unacceptable to own such a vehicle Thats probably when i would want to own one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Thats probably when i would want to own one think of the babies and the cute bunny wabbits!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelf Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 lets be honest.......... if owning a V8 means 20degrees C sunshine in the middle of January....then im sticking with my 3.9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jordan Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 If you vote you have got to give your reasons for it, So i can understand the logic of your decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelf Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 big yank...NO i have a friend doing this at the moment and is having alot of problems, heavy and keeps over heating, and the gearbox wont last. jap... YES isuzu engines are ment to be really good for 500k. V8 .... youve already got one so get it rebuilt......cheapest option and probably get the best power. others too expensive unless youve got alot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 300Tdi, simply cos their easy to own, take care off & don't have any really nasty faults that haven't beebn dealt with, parts easy to get hold of & lots of info around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mr_wuffles Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 You forgot the 200 Tdi the better version of the 300 Tdi you know the version of it that doesn't break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 200-300TDI both fine work horse engines. the 200 more rugged 300 slightly more refined once the cambelt issue is sorted the rest is great plus being newer, lower mileage looked after examples will be easier to locate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 big yank...NO i have a friend doing this at the moment and is having alot of problems, heavy and keeps over heating, and the gearbox wont last. With the correct cooling it won't overheat. It's an installation problem not a problem with the engine. Will run OK with a standard LT95 gearbox, otherwise you need to upgrade. Not exactly modest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jordan Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 300Tdi, simply cos their easy to own, take care off & don't have any really nasty faults that haven't beebn dealt with, parts easy to get hold of & lots of info around. You can say that knowing the trouble ive got with mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 yours fixed yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jordan Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 yours fixed yet? Nope. But to honest i dont think the problem is with the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 You can say that knowing the trouble ive got with mine OOPS I forgot you have one already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 You forgot the 200 Tdi the better version of the 300 Tdi you know the version of it that doesn't break? Exactly - the 300 Tdi is gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mr_wuffles Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Exactly - the 300 Tdi is gay Ask frida turner which ones always go poop and she'll say 300 Tdi. 200 Tdi engine is better for the price of a International HS 2.8 TGV you could get a re-con re worked 200 Tdi that would be bullet proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Not seen mention but isn't there an Iveco engine alternative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 3.9 V8 - they're still the cheapest, and given the % fuel you'd save going diesel it's not worth changing. Parts are cheap and plentiful and every LR has at some time or another been V8. The V8 has plenty power and flexibility. Sorting the usual Lucas gremlins (vis MS'n'S or whatever other method) will help reliability, power/economy and help with waterproofing too. Worst case scenario you kill the V8, 5 minutes and £150 later on eBay you can have a perfectly servicable 3.5 engine ready to drop in to get you going. TDi's are getting cheaper but they're not that cheap and won't be for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 The 200 is more agricultural and tougher the 300 more refined with so few differences. the 200 will stand less boost increase than the 300 I'd rather have either of these two than a foreign jonny engine. I got a 300 as I wanted a late 90 and so far it has proved a decent engine. with only a few oil leaks and a turbo rebuild after 130k all is going well. for the ££ the V8 is a cheap option and probably the best idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush65 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I'm biased to diesels - I've had my share of Rover v8's, the last was a 4.6 in the rangie. The 200/300Tdi aren't bullet proof compared to a light truck diesel. The 4 cyl diesels from Isuzu N series trucks and the Toyota Dyna are great engines that will fit into a Rover. They have great torque from idle, are very reliable and long lived. But I wouldn't use either with Rover drive train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjojjas Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 voted for 300tdi as I couldn't find 200tdi on the list. reliable, simple, and less parts than the 300tdi to go wrong........ Of course, If you had asked for a "civilised" engine my answer would be different. Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istruggle2gate11 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Well I voted for the 300tdi. Strange from a guy who loves V8's! Reason: If I was starting from scratch on a car that was going to be relied upon for regular road use then I would go for the coughs and sneezal. The only reason I dont have a squeezal is ....I love V8's (boy hood dream etc), Ive got 5 very good V8 engines to play with (3.5 x 2, 3.5 turbo, 3.9 rebuilt, 4.0 blue printed) and they are in my toys. If I had to rely on my off roader for road use, no way would it be the v8, expense would stop that instantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Does sound like we are getting back to the "my heart says V8, but my head says Diesel" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 2.8 Isuzu, front mounted intercooler & tweak the pump the same as the 200 & 300 TDi pumps ( they're virtually identical), even better get one from a Vauxhall Frontera, they've got the bigger turbo & a FMIC already, perfect with a Rangie drive train. Jez would say that the cam belts on these are easy to change & so they are but if you can get one with timing gears rather than belt you're home & hosed, look for metal domes on the front rather than flat ribbed plastic cover. No hassles with water ingress while wading then.[Helmet & flack jacket]B....y site more reliable than anything LR ever made. [/ naaah!, I'll just keep them on Actually, if it weren't for the cost, the 2.8 TGV is probably the best way to go, getting an awesome reputation around the world, shows what a Land Rover engine could be like if it'd been done properly. Cheers, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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