ped Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 hi all does anybody know whether you can weld wheel hubs? this is not for use on an axle,but as a pivot so i can mount an engine crane on a sankey my plan is to make a mini hiab so builders bulk bags of logs can be lifted on and off cheers ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Not successfully no , but im getting the idea you want to mount the crane to the hub for the slewing effect ??? Make a steel plate that fits over the hub and bolts to it using the wheel nuts , Then weld your attachment to the plate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 that was my initial idea but space is limited as i'm planning on fitting it in the middle of the drawbar and i've already mounted the tipping hydraulics there ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks90 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 instead of welding directly to the hub, why not cut out a wheel centre and weld it to that and bolt the centre to the hub on the existing studs? Same effective size - simpler to do - you can unbolt the wheel centre and remove the crane for convenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 use a stub axle bolted to the chassis, and bolt the hiab where the wheel normally bolts? Still gives you the wheel bearings and the ability to adjust them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Smith Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Yes you can weld directly to LR hubs, or at least our local blacksmith can. This is held together by such an arrangement made from an old Disco back axle. And here is the joint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Wow That great, A Doe made from a pair of lawn mowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 thanks for all your replies have now welded in place (haven't load tested as yet) will post pictures when an "adult" helps me ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 pictures of crane pivot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 pictures of crane pivot Nice Job! G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treebloke Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nice, I like it. Is it on a sankey. Will it be stable lifting a ton bag?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Sorry, but I think it looks a dreadfull bodge at best and a F dangerous one at worst. Some of the welding is suspect, ...esp for a pros work (Blacksmith ?????) The forces involved when 'craning' with leverage are huge and at the end of the day its a cast lump welded to some thin RHS with nothing prep'd very well - doubt looking at it dissimilar rods were used ? I wouldn't want to be anywhere near it when its fully loaded, yes I may seem like a moaner and a killjoy - , but from a fabrication point a view its nasty - and about as safe as jelly nailed to a wall. Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 doubt that will stand up to shifting builders bags of rubble/sand/or other materials, for one it's not been tested as lifting equipment & what is the SWL [safe Working Load] of the actual crane, the pivot must be able to cope with something like 1.5 times the SWL, just to be safe, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Testing and certification of the instalation and lifting acessories aside, you WILL need outriggers to prevent the load being lifted tipping(rapidly) the trailer over as soon as the suspended load goes outboard of the trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hi ped is yours the green 110 hicap with funky looking full length cage? I guess this is for lifting bags of logs out at customers houses? Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 That's a nifty idea, although as Nige has rather tactfully pointed out you probably don't want to lift anything too heavy with it. You could make some stabiliser legs/bars that slot into the base of the support to stop it tipping. Looks like it should lift a sack of logs or the odd lump of LR onto the trailer quite nicely, not sure about a 1t bag of ballast but that doesn't seem to be the intention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 thanks for opinions but as stated its for lifting bags of seasoned logs(180kg-200kg)not bags of ballast the box section was used so an extendable out rigger could be fitted the hub is also bolted through where the wheel studs were(not in photo's) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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