sotal Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Been looking at Engine Hoists and I've seen these two. There is £80 between them - can anyone tell me what the difference is? Someone is offering to sell me the more expensive one 2nd hand for £100 only used 5 times in perfect condition with chains etc. Just wanted to understand why it was more as the heights etc seemed better on the cheaper one. Any reason not to go for it? I hear lots of bad things about Clarke tools and it's not a tool you want to go wrong! But at the same time it's not going to get much use so I don't want to spend a fortune on it! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Been looking at Engine Hoists and I've seen these two. There is £80 between them - can anyone tell me what the difference is? Someone is offering to sell me the more expensive one 2nd hand for £100 only used 5 times in perfect condition with chains etc. Just wanted to understand why it was more as the heights etc seemed better on the cheaper one. Any reason not to go for it? I hear lots of bad things about Clarke tools and it's not a tool you want to go wrong! But at the same time it's not going to get much use so I don't want to spend a fortune on it! Cheers Which two do you want comparing? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Doh forgot to add the links: http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cfc1000-1-t-econ-folding-workshop-cran http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cfc100-1-tonne-folding-workshop-crane Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Get the stronger one for less money is what i'd say But both will work for what you want to use it for. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Which is the stronger one?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Which is the stronger one?! The one with the longest jib - the cheaper one IIRC. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Which is the stronger one?! sorry, at a glance i thought the expensive one was stronger.... nevertheless, get the 2nd hand one and save some pennies G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_d Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Get the second hand one (or the cheaper one) and spend the difference on a load leveler and an engine stand. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 So nobody has said 'don't go for the Clarke' - does that mean you'd all trust them? I'm quite tempted by the second hand one and it's only a couple of miles away. The other choice I have is a broken one, it's further to fetch approx 30 miles or so, and needs the ram repairing or replacing as it leaks so the arm doesn't fully extend. That one is a more expensive (when it was new) one, about 4 years old and 'cheap' (waiting for a price - so it might not be that cheap). I believe the broken one is this one: http://www.workplace-products.co.uk/product/jcb-folding-workshop-crane/ (the 1000kg version). I was confused by the Machine mart ones with the more expensive one not appearing to be any better - the only better thing I could see was that it looks to fold up smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 More info from previous thread here. Beware that quoted boom length seems to be from the pivot point, not the actual distance you can reach over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I've had the cheaper one and currently have the dearer one The cheaper one flexes quite alarmingly, and with an engine suspended on it, is very difficult to move about on even a slightly rough surface. The rear wheels are too close together, and it can easily tip over if you are moving it with an engine suspended on it. The ram isn't chrome plated, so rusts at the slightest hint of moisture, which then causes the arm to creep down. The long chain also means that the arm won't go high enough to clear the front end of, say, a Defender. (Ihad to remove the front wheels and lower the vehicle right down) The second crane isn't that much different to the first - just more solid and the shorter chain makes things a lot easier. The ram still rusts, but has a double pump action for lifting, and the whole thing is noticeably better to use. Wider wheel space at the back makes it a lot more stable trying to move with a suspended load. I've had mine for a couple or more years now - no problems with it to speak of. I guess I've used it about 80 times. The damned hook is in the wrong position though - in line with the crane means it trys to turn the engine Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Anything with Clarke on is to be treated with caution IMHO Ring up machine mart and tell them as it says CFCs on the web page you want a discount to compensate for destroying the environment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Thanks for the replies, I'll take a look at the 2nd hand one down the road and try and knock him down a few quid. It seems from the later replies that the 1000 is much more heavy duty than the 100 which is what I wanted to hear! They seem to hold the value as well so if I sell it on in a year or two it will hopefully fetch similar money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam300Tdi90 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (Ihad to remove the front wheels and lower the vehicle right down) Les. Same here!! Although I was removing the engine, gearbox and TX box all at once (on it's furthest reach!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 A small point to note, the more expensive hoist has a small roller on the base plate for moving the hoist when it is folded, I've found this made a big difference when moving a folded hoist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Attryde Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 A small point to note, the more expensive hoist has a small roller on the base plate for moving the hoist when it is folded, I've found this made a big difference when moving a folded hoist. I have agree with Luke the more expensive one is easier to move around when folded up, and will happily lift a 300TDI/autobox and transfer box as one on full stretch. Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 I'm starting to be convinced, will hopefully go and take a look tonight Thanks for all the replies - it's been very useful. Cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSIIA Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I've had the 1000 for ~4 years and done quite a few engine swaps. The reach could do with being another 6" or so for lifting in/out of RRC & 300Tdi Defender. Height issue was just about overcome by taking the pin out and shortening the chain. A more satisfactory solution would be to fit a swivel hook. Using a lifting beam rather than slings helps to minimise the height above the load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 will happily lift a 300TDI/autobox and transfer box as one on full stretch. Yup, we proved that, at least three times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Attryde Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Yup, we proved that, at least three times! And it runs in it's new home . Sorry for the OT. Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I have agree with Luke the more expensive one is easier to move around when folded up, and will happily lift a 300TDI/autobox and transfer box as one on full stretch. Pete. I have the one without the extra wheels to move it when folded and it is a pain. This is particularly true when you hit a stone or a lip as the castors drop to the lowest point and the whole thing gets very heavy and tried to crush you. Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Got them down to £90 should be picking up tomorrow. Thanks for the advice Is there anything I should do to test it when I pick it up? Pump to the top etc? How do I check for faults Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I have one of these : http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cfc1000-1-t-econ-folding-workshop-cran and have abused it horribly over the years, its been leant out to many (eveining mark ) and dropped, overloaded "3.9 EFI V8 AND LT95 dangling from it sir ?" and if and when it dies I'd buy another without question No sign of it dying yet - not all clarke stuff is bad Much is 'brand badged' Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 I have one of these : http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cfc1000-1-t-econ-folding-workshop-cran and have abused it horribly over the years, its been leant out to many (eveining mark ) and dropped, overloaded "3.9 EFI V8 AND LT95 dangling from it sir ?" and if and when it dies I'd buy another without question No sign of it dying yet - not all clarke stuff is bad Much is 'brand badged' Nige Sounds good - that's the exact one I'm picking up later. Should save me busting my back trying to maul the gearbox out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 All seems great with it, heavier than I thought it would be, but dead easy to move around on it's wheels. Seems a great bit of kit, got a few jobs lined up for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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