rustynuts Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 What do people think of 235/85/16 tyres? Good or Bad? Pros, cons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 good, but 255/85x16 will give you another 1 inch clearance under the diffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustynuts Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 will I be good for clearence etc? with either a 235 or 255. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html Play to your heart's content. For reference, 235/85/R16 is a standard Land Rover fitted size, same as 265/75/R16 is. In fact that are not far off the same diameter (31.6") 255/85/R16 is 33.1" in diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 What do people think of 235/85/16 tyres? To be honest, without more info, that's a bit like saying what do people think of string. It depends on what you are doing with it - if you are tying up John and Edward in advance of beating them with a shovel then it may be ideal, if you are trying to beat eggs or mow a lawn, probably less useful. What are you putting them on, what are you planning to do with it and what do you want to achieve by changing tyres? (or put another way, what is wrong with the ones on there at the moment that you want to fix) On road, off road, different terrain types off road, looks, roadholding, its an infinitely variable equation and there is no "right" answer - as well as the size you need to think about which of the dozens of available tread patterns might be appropriate. Not trying to be funny but without more info all I could really say is they are black, round and usually have a hole in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 as BM says, although i would say they would def have a hole in the middle (que picture of tyre with no hole!!) i run 235/85 Trac Edges on my 110 - love them, dont want the extra height of the 255 (or the associated change in gearing) dont want the width of a 265 so as a general runabout on pref road going vehicle they suit my needs fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmiebrumie Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 To be honest, without more info, that's a bit like saying what do people think of string. It depends on what you are doing with it - if you are tying up John and Edward in advance of beating them with a shovel then it may be ideal, if you are trying to beat eggs or mow a lawn, probably less useful. What are you putting them on, what are you planning to do with it and what do you want to achieve by changing tyres? (or put another way, what is wrong with the ones on there at the moment that you want to fix) On road, off road, different terrain types off road, looks, roadholding, its an infinitely variable equation and there is no "right" answer - as well as the size you need to think about which of the dozens of available tread patterns might be appropriate. Not trying to be funny but without more info all I could really say is they are black, round and usually have a hole in the middle Beating up John & Edward with a shovel, now theres a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustynuts Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Retro, thanks for the link, have seen it before and found it very useful to compare tyre sizes etc. Was really looking for first hand experience from people running this size of tire, either on road or off road. As i have posted in the defender section of the forum i thought my vehicle would be obvious, that coupled with my avatar. It's a 110 defender CSW 92 200tdi in white. I probably spend 80% of my time driving on roads Carry loads of timber on the roof due to my occupation I live in the alps so snow in the winter is a regular driving condition Form should follow function (but looks don't hurt) Have standard suspension, although would like to upgrade to OE HD rear springs at some point. would like to achieve a bit more ground clearance, with slightly higher gearing as i occasionally do a run or two to Geneva airport on the motorway. But on the flip side there is plenty of off road driving to be had around here. Hope the extra info helps with peoples replies. And Bogmonster, i did find that quite amusing! Yes i am planning on tying John and Edward up, whoever they are, but was thinking more on the lines of rolling my old tyres at them from the top of a hill, a bit like a game of human skittles! Cheers Rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 For that little bit of extra clearance and gearing (My 300Tdi never had problems) go for 255.85x16 As to the tread pattern, Cooper Discoverer ST. Not a snow tyre but M+S marked, Cooper also do a proper snow tyre called Cooper Discoverer M+S but only goes up to 235.85x16 or 265.75x16 (similar height, but wider). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Rusty, 235.85r16 tyres are the correct standard tyre size for your vehicle. What do you have at the moment and what don't you like about them ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustynuts Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 I have 205/ 7.50/ 16, and don't like the fact that they are worn out! two michelin and two firestone M+S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave K Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 You must have 7.50x16, judging by you avatar.(110) 205's were usually fitted Defender 90/Ninety's You can't have both on the same vehicle! 235/85x16 on the front, 7.50x16 on rear. (Was changing wheels, don't usually drive around like that!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustynuts Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Sorry my mistake, they are all 7.50 / 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustynuts Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 How do you rate your 235's Dave k? As apposed to the 7.50's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave K Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 A lot smoother, although they're only AT's, so not great mud pluggers. Alright for what I need them to do. The offset means I have a little more lock. Handy on a 110 I'd go for the ST's if you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm52 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 i have 235/85/16 bfg at's - never got stuck yet.........apart from driver error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I would suggest General Grabber AT2s as a good all rounder with good road manners, works well on the snow etc - the size you want will be fine, you could also fit 265/75R16 for a chunkier look and possibly better on road manners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I second GG AT2 as a good allround tyre. BUT I don't rate them in the snow anymore. After last winter's driving experience I now have Cooper Discoverer M+S fitted to the vehicle*. Quite a few up here had similar experience with the GG that they are OK for the first snow season, but then must harden up or something as the second snow season, they we're scary. They would very easily loose sideways grip. The Cooper M+S has noticeably softer rubber and a lot more siping. *I now have 2 sets of wheels 1GG and 1 Cooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Hunter Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I've had a set of GG AT2 265/75R16 (Paddocks) and have been very satisfied with them. They're on 8" rims (Paddocks) and with wheel spacers (Paddocks) they significantly improve the turning circle of my 110. With 18,000 km, all on tarmac, they have worn about 3mm. I haven't had them on snow yet, but expect to very soon! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I second GG AT2 as a good allround tyre. BUT I don't rate them in the snow anymore. After last winter's driving experience I now have Cooper Discoverer M+S fitted to the vehicle*. Quite a few up here had similar experience with the GG that they are OK for the first snow season, but then must harden up or something as the second snow season, they we're scary. They would very easily loose sideways grip. Interesting - mine have just been changed yesterday for another set and I did think immediately that the ride felt different (better) so maybe they do harden up towards the end of their life, the rears on my Ranger were nearly bald in the middle. Last winter here was pretty horrendous compared to most years and I still felt they performed fairly well but I run mine very soft when its like that - I think I had about 22psi in them during the snowy weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Interesting - mine have just been changed yesterday for another set and I did think immediately that the ride felt different (better) so maybe they do harden up towards the end of their life, the rears on my Ranger were nearly bald in the middle. Last winter here was pretty horrendous compared to most years and I still felt they performed fairly well but I run mine very soft when its like that - I think I had about 22psi in them during the snowy weather. I didn't adjust tyre pressures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustynuts Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Thanks for all the comments. Cooper are a popular brand over here so will have a closer look at their range, as are maxxis so any recommendations from them would be good. The old adage goes 'a narrow tyre performs better in snow'. This is why i was initially thinking 235/85/16. But from the info people are providing here 255, or 265 seem to be a popular choice. Is there any real advantage to a narrower tyre in snow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 GG AT2 in the snow Depends what type of driving you want to do in the snow On packed snow/ ice covered roads narrow tyres would be best. Driving in/ on untouched virgin powder like they do in Iceland, go big and wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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