disco_al Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I have decided that i want one of these conversions clicky expensive, but soooo nice to have a modern diesel - especially the tdv6 surely too the system they have developed opens up a whole new world of conversion possibilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 That's something I'd absolutely love to have in an RRC or P38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangeyRover Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Mmmmmm look at the TDV6 3.0 figures Not sure if LR have a gearbox that can live behind it though. Eeeek! £3000 for the ECU + Loom alone! Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozsug Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Im sure the Megasquirt gurus will have a cheeper system sooon please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 That's something I'd absolutely love to have in an RRC or P38. Wash your mouth out!! :o Only V8's in RRC's please! Thankyouverymuch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhybrid Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Mmmmmm look at the TDV6 3.0 figures Not sure if LR have a gearbox that can live behind it though. Eeeek! £3000 for the ECU + Loom alone! Wow! not to worry I was told a brand new engine minus loom and ecu was less than £1000 a couple of years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I was told a brand new engine minus loom and ecu was less than £1000 a couple of years ago It didnt happen to be a scouser that told you that bollox was it??? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyMellin Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Let me know when somebody's fitted a supercharged AJ-V8 to a 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 JE Engineering have. Plenty of people running them in comp safari motors, there was a rash of cheap crate engines about a while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The rev counter doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhybrid Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 It didnt happen to be a scouser that told you that bollox was it??? Phil nope landrover dealer had to fit a new turbo to a disco3 at £400 plus labour and was ranting about weather to buy complete engine for spares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Wash your mouth out!! :o Only V8's in RRC's please! Thankyouverymuch. Pish, a smelly old diesel works perfectly well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Quite a few modern engines are cheap enough second hand - let's face it, they don't wear out these days so unless they go pop the car is usually in the scrapper because it's been bent or gone rusty before the engine's done any work. Local scrapper was punting BMW 4.4 V8's for around £300 a while back. Of course, very few people will buy 'em because they have ELECTRICS on them and therefore are completely impregnable to the average spanner monkey. This is where Megasquirt comes in to its own, if it's a petrol engine you're pretty much guaranteed to be able to make it run. I'm sure when someone can be bothered to put the work in they'll crack it for diesels too, the problem is the R&D relies on people who are willing to tinker and are willing to risk an engine or three to get the bugs ironed out. In the meantime, JE and the like can charge through the nose for their stuff as they have put the effort in to gather the knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyMellin Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 JE Engineering have. Plenty of people running them in comp safari motors, there was a rash of cheap crate engines about a while ago. Any links? Interested to see what gearbox was used etc. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozsug Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Any links? Interested to see what gearbox was used etc. Thanks. ZULU Defender Conversion Application: The Zulu conversion can be carried out on any post 1998 90" or 110” wheelbase Defender. Engine: 4.2 litre supercharged TOHC 32valve JLR V8. Modified by JE Engineering to incorporate larger h/t exhaust valves, gas flowed cylinder heads and induction tracts, modified supercharger drive and JE Stage 1 electronic mapping. The vehicle is normally produced with a stainless steel exhaust system incorporating 200 cell sports catalysts. Where noise or pollution issues are not paramount it can be supplied with either 100 cell units or catalyst free. Power: 420 - 480 bhp (depending on specification) Torque: 550Nm Transmission: 6-speed h/d manual gearbox or 4-speed ZF automatic transmission. Special uprated prop shafts with heavy-duty cv joints, uprated ½ shafts, both axles up rated with 4 pin front and Quaife rear differential incorporating Dakar spec cwp locater. Brakes: APRacing Front: 350mm grooved ventilated discs with 6pot calipers. Rear: grooved discs with uprated lining material. Suspension: Full JE system incorporating modified springs, anti-roll bar and uprated dampers. Rallyraid spec dampers incorporating remote, cooled fluid reservoir, to choice Wheels: 18” Cast alloy 5spoke fitted with 265.60x18 A/T tyres as standard. Image Billet 3-piece wheels at extra cost and road tyres to choice Guide price: (Standard vehicle with only mildly upgraded trim) Conversion: 37,400 GBP + Taxes (Does not include donor vehicle) Huge range of extras - see brochure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Quite a few modern engines are cheap enough second hand - let's face it, they don't wear out these days so unless they go pop the car is usually in the scrapper because it's been bent or gone rusty before the engine's done any work. Local scrapper was punting BMW 4.4 V8's for around £300 a while back. Of course, very few people will buy 'em because they have ELECTRICS on them and therefore are completely impregnable to the average spanner monkey. This is where Megasquirt comes in to its own, if it's a petrol engine you're pretty much guaranteed to be able to make it run. I'm sure when someone can be bothered to put the work in they'll crack it for diesels too, the problem is the R&D relies on people who are willing to tinker and are willing to risk an engine or three to get the bugs ironed out. In the meantime, JE and the like can charge through the nose for their stuff as they have put the effort in to gather the knowledge. I've got some thoughts rattling around my head on this. I've got my eye on a Merc OM606 engine for my series. These have an electronically controlled FIP - all the timing etc is handled mechanically, but the fuel rack is electrical. It would not be that difficult at all to get MS to drive the fuel rack. You'd need to add a governor of sorts for idle/max rpm, and the code would need tweaking to output a PWM signal on the injector driver - which would drive the actuator on the rack very nicely. You'd also need a tweak to get power demand from the throttle pedal. Otherwise, the majority of the MS code could stay put. From there, to get MS to drive a common rail diesel isn't such a big step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 ZULU Defender Conversion Quaife rear differential incorporating Dakar spec cwp locater. Rallyraid spec dampers incorporating remote, cooled fluid reservoir, to choice WTF is Dakar & Rallyraid spec other than marketing guff? And even if there were a Rallyraid spec for dampers you certainly wouldn't want it on a 400hp road car. I've read the conversion is very professionally though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Local scrapper was punting BMW 4.4 V8's for around £300 a while back... Jesus Fridge, tell me now why dontcha!! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Jesus Fridge, tell me now why dontcha!! Phil Oh...someone else had to buy at full price did they!! Cost me a fortune to sort my L322 out in the end, but now it does have a brand new engine and runs sweet as a nut (running off to touch some wood..quick!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 No no. Id just have considered using one instead of the RV8 if i knew they were that price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 No no. Id just have considered using one instead of the RV8 if i knew they were that price! TBH by the time you've done a conversion and faffed about you're not gaining a massive amount over the far easier RV8 option. Every time I look at engine swaps, when you really look at all the factors it's very hard to beat the drop-in RV8 option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 TBH by the time you've done a conversion and faffed about you're not gaining a massive amount over the far easier RV8 option. Every time I look at engine swaps, when you really look at all the factors it's very hard to beat the drop-in RV8 option. You need to listern to fridge as he is a class 1 FIGJAM :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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