ejparrott Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Kettle really needs new tyres, her current ones getting somewhat worn now. I've been looking at the Dakar's as they seem to be the same tread pattern I've been using, just wondering if anyone's using them and can recommend them...or not! I know one chap with a 2286 diesel using them on his off-roading 88 and he thinks they're ok. Kettle is mainly a road car at the end of the day, but we do like to go steady laning, and the occasional winter play is always enjoyed but tends to be avoided, partly because of the current lack of tread and subsequent grip. I do not want special tracks, friends 110 has them and is noisy as! Did also look at the Sahara's, but thought they might be a bit too noisy aswell, maybe, all other suggestions in the £100 bracket welcomed. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Have you looked at the ranger, they are more of a AT tread. I had the Dakar on my disco, believe they are a MT pattern so a little noisier than the ranger. okay on the road and fine offroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 I did, however I didn't think off them as being particuarly aggresive, though ~I'll happily be prooved wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&S Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Insa Turbo Traction tracks are perfect for your needs BUT they are quite noisy. I'm used to that now though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyninety Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 How many miles do you intend to do on them? My friend runs dakars as a winter tyre and having done 10,000 miles on them they're almost worn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Really? we do about 3500 miles a year I think, mostly road....10000 ain't much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyninety Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 yeah... they have not impressed us. Very much a budget MT tyre. Dont get me wrong theyre as good as most MT's in the mud, but on the road they hum, wear and handling is terrible. For an all road, VERY hard wearing budget tyre id buy some of these: http://www.paddockspares.com/land-rover-wheels-and-tyres/enduro-tyres/at-all-terrain-pattern.html The tread pattern is slightly more aggressive when you actually see them, They IMHO would suit your needs far greater than Dakars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Thanks for the tip, I'll investigate those....The 109 is also in need of new tyres, and she's an almost all road vehicle....might be worth me trying a set on Kettle and if they do what I want getting a set for The 109... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I have 235/85 x 16 Dakars on my 109", i am happy with them but i dont do a high mileage and the previous Macho's in the same size did not run as free and were changed due to perishing rather than wear. The original BFG trak edge tyres ran even freer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&S Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 How many miles do you intend to do on them? My friend runs dakars as a winter tyre and having done 10,000 miles on them they're almost worn out. That's rubbish! My Traction Tracks have happily done 35,000miles. Getting close to needing new ones but still a few k more in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmagnet Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 i have had the same set of dakars on my disco and previously my rangie and after 6 years and about 20,000 miles they still have about 8 mm of tread left. about 75% of this was offroad, they are now loosing the bite in the mud as all the knobblies have worn, but i would replace with the same without a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I've got Insa Turbo Sahara's on my 88" - they are definitely an off road tyre rather than on road - at about 45mph they get very noisy! If your budget is £100 a corner, dependant on size you might be able to get something like General AT2s or Cooper Discoverer ATRs - I've had both of those on my LC and they worked well in all conditions and last a long time (Generals were 40K+ miles, Coopers have been on there 15K so far and bearly look worn at all). They also have the advantage of not being remoulds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hankook rt03's for me, have them on my 90 in 235/85/16 flavour and prefer them to the 265/75/16 bfg MUDs I had on. I do 50 miles a day of country and A roads with them. Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 hmm, some great thoughts coming in, looks like a lot of googling tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 hmm, some great thoughts coming in, looks like a lot of googling tonight! After testing my pressure gauges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I had a set of Dakars that were the same tread pattern as the old BFG MT. They weren't that worn, but the sidewalls had perished noticeably. Trouble is that INSA tyres are remoulds, and IMO that means they wear out quicker as the compound is softer than most new tyres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 my sahara's lasted 15,000 then they contributed greatly into putting me through a wall. im now on goodyear's insa's are great off road cant fault them but on road in wet conditions they are a bit exciting, and unlike better makes, dont seem to give you any signs of letting go of the road, they just suddenly go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 After testing my pressure gauges. Had to wait 'til this morning anyway! AT2's hav never struck me as particuarly agressive for some reason, I've always thought of them as an aggressive road tyre more than anything else. Ok so I'm not in to mud plugging and I don't head for the sheep dips at Coney with Kettle, I'm quite prepared to be proved wrong though. Going rate for them seems to be about £115 which is doable - I think I'll probably only be buying 4 to start with, and using one of the current tyres as a spare until I can get a fifth. More research! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 General AT2s? As said earlier, I had them for ages, although not on a LR. They worked very well in the snow, rain, shine etc. They got a bit clogged with mud when I took them round the Abingdon 4x4 day. How about Cooper STTs? They are more chunky than the AT2 and seem to be very well regarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&S Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 If you aren't going to damage the tyre off-road it's probably worth spending a bit more on a tyre that will last longer in mileage terms. I'd rather spend less on a tyre and sacrifice mileage as I am more likely to damage a sidewall than I am wear the tread out. Saying that my Insas have done 35000+ miles and were half the price of BFG's, so yes, the BFG's last longer but not twice as long. And I have trashed a BFG AT in a couple of thousand miles before. Cut the side wall and so it was scrapped. THAT hurt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 My Dakars are on 12'000 miles and worn down from 16mm to 13mm, with considerable offroad use....so that 10k quote above is rubbish For a cheap tyre they are well worth the money and I'll happily buy them again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 My Dakars are on 12'000 miles and worn down from 16mm to 13mm, with considerable offroad use....so that 10k quote above is rubbish not necessarily. its all about how vehicles are driven on the road that determines the tire life.. my mum fitted budget tyres to her car 2 1/2 years ago, still got about 4-6 left because its driven carefully and my friend went through a set on 4 months diving like an idiot.. its depends on the driving style so you cant say is rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 cant say its rubbish, because i took 1mm off my insa's off road before they went on the road, then took an inch off in less than a year on road. i.e. with a remould the tyre life entirely depends on driving style and the rubber they use at the time of casting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Bit more research going in seeing as The 109 desperatly needs new tyres and has no spare now. What about Grabber TR's, standard fit by Land Rover for some years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearos Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 What about Grabber TR's, standard fit by Land Rover for some years? When I bought my 90 it came with these fitted, and I have to say I've never known a tyre wear so slowly! I believe they have a reputation for lasting a long, long time. For me, they behaved really well on tarmac, were quiet and apparently they give better fuel economy than a 'proper' AT tyre. They were also pretty good in the snow we've had the last few winters, although the few times they've seen wet, slippy clay they didn't cope very well at all. But with their tread pattern/class of tyre I suppose you can't expect too much from them in those kind of conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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