JeffR Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 So it's only taken me a week to almost get the engine out of a Disco - to the person of doubtful parentage who LOCKTITED every bell housing nut and bolt as well as using lock washers- I really hate you with a passion that is indescribable. Any way said motor will be out very shortly, so intend to do rear crank oil seal, clutch, timing belt, re-seal sump. Anything else anyone can think of whilst engine is out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 If you've got it out, change the gaskets on the oil filter housing...mines leaking and it's going to be a pig to do (in a Series 3). I'd do the rocker too, because you can easily see the rear half moon and make sure it's in right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 oil filter housing, now there's another leak I'd forgot about, half moons were done earlier this year when I did the head gasket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 While you are doing the sump would it be worth looking at the state of the bearing shells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 water pump p gasket and core plugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Pick up pipe O-ring/gasket? Your bound to knock it if the sump is off and both seals go hard over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 While you are doing the sump would it be worth looking at the state of the bearing shells? Would be nice, but as all this is going to be done outside (engine crane does not like the gravel drive, take my word for it! Took me best part of an hour to move the engine and crane)....... Plus I don't know what size shells are in the thing, oh and I don't have an engine stand. water pump p gasket and core plugs The core plugs are still perfect and there's no obvious water leaks, was considering banging on a new water pump as old one has to come off to do the timing belt, but I think I'll wait and see what the impeller looks like first..... Does anyone know of a good stockist for M10 flanged/nylocks to replace the ones I buggered ? In an ideal world I'd prefer to use short nylocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 is it a 200tdi or a 300tdi ? if 200tdi you can't access the main or big ends without removing the ladder frame between sump & block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 is it a 200tdi or a 300tdi ? if 200tdi you can't access the main or big ends without removing the ladder frame between sump & block. 200! another case of "ignorance is bliss"!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Now in a quandary, clutch I just took out is, well rather good with plenty life left in it. Springs in plate are fine, but forks are quite worn (about 1/2-3/4mm groove where bearing runs. I have a new plate etc kicking about.... Do I or don't I replace it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Replace it, better to do it now while it's all out of the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Replace. You only get paid once for the job, if there's a comeback you do it for free OH!! I've just remembered You are doing it for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 New clutch is definitely safer. The thought of taking this bloody engine out again...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Replace! If its a 200 you don't have to worry about P gasket! I'd have the whole of the front and back of the engine off. When we did the timing belt on the 88 we ended up taking it off after struggling with stuck bolts. We drilled the holes out a bit to hopefully prevent a repeat. When doing timing belts I also changed crank seals, both, and cam seals and o rings. You might as well have the flywheel housing off too and change that gasket. I replace all the bolts with normal BZP bolts with proper size heads, and use proper M8 nuts on the studs. I hate those flanged nuts LR use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiny Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I am really looking forward to a detailed report about the job in true JeffR style Just a gentle reminder about those Haynes variations you once promised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 How far in does the spigot bush go in? Also are they solid or sintered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 I am really looking forward to a detailed report about the job in true JeffR style Just a gentle reminder about those Haynes variations you once promised Gotta fix the bugger first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Jeff. I know you are working on gravel, struggleing with moving the crane. What I do is use sheets of cheap ply on the ground.Stops the wheels of the crane digging in Makes it easier for the crane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 How far in does the spigot bush go in? Also are they solid or sintered? all the way and they should be solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 all the way and they should be solid. The one that is currently in place sits flush with the clutch end of the crank, but there is a half inch gap between the spigot bearing and the crank, i.e. the bush is shorter than the hole. What lubricant would folks recommend - got a shed load of moly grease/lithium grease or just good old engine oil ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 A small dab of grease is all I use, Phosphor Bronze does lubricate its self... Hence its use in this application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It should sit flush with the end of the crank, seem to remember mine had a 1/2" gap behind too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Well that's a few more bodges sorted: Lift pump mounting plate missing two screws Oil filter housing missing 1 screw Timing chest front cover two screw heads (WTF) glued in with silicone and no gasket Water pump missing two screws and no gasket Wastegate now moves (what is the part number for the retaining c clip that now resides somewhere in the darkest recess of the garage) Timing belt done so that all the timing marks are aligned.... Just got the rear crank seal to re-do - buggered the first one up spectacularly , clutch, sump............................ Forgot to add that it takes a minimum of three people to drag a 200 tdi 15m along a gravel drive to get the bar steward into the garage cos the bloody thing is 6 inches too wide to fit through the entrance door.... Also takes best part of a day to reassemble most of the wife Mini so one can get that out of the garage to make room for the 200 TDI and engine crane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 what is the part number for the retaining c clip that now resides somewhere in the darkest recess of the garage not listed in parts info as a seperate part, any suitable circlip will do the job or see if a turbo reconditioners can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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