Chicken Drumstick Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Does anyone know of any Interco Tires suppliers in the UK. I have a memory of Devon4x4 stocking them at one point, but can't see them listed there now. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Devon used to for sure but I think LA supertrux do or at least, did? Other option, buy them state side and ship them yourself? Could be expensive!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Noisy Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 whats the deal on importing tyres these days? i thought it was something along the lines of you get thrown in prison if you do, as they are basically illegal due to new EU (Grrrrrrrrr) legislation? i have pitbull tyres and am dreading the day when i wish to replace them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 A mate is looking for a spare TSL Thornbird at the mo, he's not coming up with many options either - do post up if you find an answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I think it is illegal to sell them, but you can import them yourself. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 https://www.gov.uk/eu-tyre-labeling-regulation-guidance-for-business-and-industry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 They would fall into the "professional off road tyres" category surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 or -" tyres whose nominal diameter is smaller than 254 mm or bigger than 635 mm " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 They would fall into the "professional off road tyres" category surely?I presume that it is not sufficient that the vehicle is for business use, But that your business requires off road work! Forrestry work, agroculture possibly leccy board etc?Don't like the backhanded way of stopping off roading for pleasure by banning tyres, except that it will backfire by making older 4x4s and new with massive tyres more popular thus negating other EU initiatives ha ha ha ha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 or -" tyres whose nominal diameter is smaller than 254 mm or bigger than 635 mm "[/size] This can't cover many cars then as most car tyres must be larger than 635 mm surely? Certainly all 4x4s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 tyres taller than 25" a 6.00X16 is 28" FFS so basically they can be imported and sold by who ever to who ever wants to buy them I always fancied a set of super swampers on a portaled RRC for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Noisy Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Soooo Basically there's no problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOA 93 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 A guy who lives just along from me works for Southam Tyres/Micheldever, I think he is a buyer for them, we were talking about my Pit Bull Rockers a while back and he said that Southam Tyres had looked into importing them along with INTERCO some time ago, the size and aggressiveness of the Tyres is not the problem apparently, the problem is the Americans still use aromatic oil in the manufacture of said Tyres, which is either not allowed in the EU or has been banned completely. I got the impression Southam Tyres would happily import these Tyres otherwise, it sounded like the rest of the world had stopped using the banned oil but in typical fashion the Americans didn't give a toss, and I think the market elsewhere is not big enough to make them change there minds. He also told me he could sort me out a phone number for a guy who would/could import odd Tyres if I ever needed, although the guy does not deal in 4x4 Tyres he was happy to bring in the odd tyre. I don't know this neighbour particularly well, so I ought to say allegedly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 I'm not sure they aren't legal in the UK. There seem to be Interco distributors all across Europe, just none in the UK for some reason. And lets face it, if you imported a used car from America fitted with Interco tires, would it really be illegal to use them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I had a conversation with Devon 4x4 about this. They stated that it is the aromatic oil content that is the issue. The EU have some realy strict cirteria that requires manufacturers to submit tyres for testing and so on. D44 told me that interco some time used rubber with the oil in, sometimes not, but for them to comply with the EU regs would be to much hassle for the volumes sold, therefore they did not both to try and comply. End result is that they are techncially illegal to import and sell as, even if they are oil free, they will not have been certified oil free by the right boffin in the EU money grabbing machine. I think the end user can use them. According to D44 the importer of tyres which have not been tested by the right EU boffin for aromatic compounds can be fined £5,000 per tyre -even if oil free.......... However I understand that you can import personally. Not sure if you have to only use off road. However it's easy to state that for the customs man. I have 4 of boggers that I bought to allow mock up of my (never ending) project, but no spare. I intend to just import two more when (later this century) I complete the LR. I was intending to ring round US distributors and get a price for tyres + delivery. However that may prove to be £££££. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I had a conversation with Devon 4x4 about this. They stated that it is the aromatic oil content that is the issue. The EU have some realy strict cirteria that requires manufacturers to submit tyres for testing and so on. D44 told me that interco some time used rubber with the oil in, sometimes not, but for them to comply with the EU regs would be to much hassle for the volumes sold, therefore they did not both to try and comply. End result is that they are techncially illegal to import and sell as, even if they are oil free, they will not have been certified oil free by the right boffin in the EU money grabbing machine. I think the end user can use them. According to D44 the importer of tyres which have not been tested by the right EU boffin for aromatic compounds can be fined £5,000 per tyre -even if oil free.......... However I understand that you can import personally. Not sure if you have to only use off road. However it's easy to state that for the customs man. I have 4 of boggers that I bought to allow mock up of my (never ending) project, but no spare. I intend to just import two more when (later this century) I complete the LR. I was intending to ring round US distributors and get a price for tyres + delivery. However that may prove to be £££££. this is interesting though: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-INTERCO-SUPER-SWAMPER-BOGGER-TYRE-35-10-50-15-BOGGE-EXTREME-OFF-ROAD-/231308508713?pt=UK_Cars_Tyres_RL&hash=item35db0fbe29 Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Just selling off an odd tyre they had left imported before ban?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 I had a conversation with Devon 4x4 about this. They stated that it is the aromatic oil content that is the issue. The EU have some realy strict cirteria that requires manufacturers to submit tyres for testing and so on. D44 told me that interco some time used rubber with the oil in, sometimes not, but for them to comply with the EU regs would be to much hassle for the volumes sold, therefore they did not both to try and comply. End result is that they are techncially illegal to import and sell as, even if they are oil free, they will not have been certified oil free by the right boffin in the EU money grabbing machine. I think the end user can use them. According to D44 the importer of tyres which have not been tested by the right EU boffin for aromatic compounds can be fined £5,000 per tyre -even if oil free.......... However I understand that you can import personally. Not sure if you have to only use off road. However it's easy to state that for the customs man. I have 4 of boggers that I bought to allow mock up of my (never ending) project, but no spare. I intend to just import two more when (later this century) I complete the LR. I was intending to ring round US distributors and get a price for tyres + delivery. However that may prove to be £££££. Not disputing what you are saying. But if it's true, this page on the Interco site would seem very odd. Look at all the European countries covered by a distributor: http://www.intercotire.com/wheretobuy.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 A quick email to the NL distributor yielded interesting results, they can and will supply what ever you are willing to pay for and wait for if it needs to be imported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Thanks, I might give them a shout if nothing else pans out. Only really after pricing an availability of some specific sizes/patterns at the mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Noisy Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 The other thing that used to be a problem wsy back when at least was E marking on tyres. We had an American boat/trailer and had or at least decided to swap out the tyres for UK trailer tyres that were E marked. I see lots of boats with evidently USA tyres on and nobody gives a toss so it was perhaps a waste of effort but a good 15/20 years ago we decided it was a good idea to not have what we thought were illegal tyres on the trailer. I currently have pitbull rockers and wondered about the E Mark thing but as above im now not as sure it's as much of a problem as we did back then. But maybe my insurer would say different if I skidded into somebody with American tyres fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOA 93 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Not sure where I read it now, may have been SVA manual, but you should be ok as your Pit Bulls have a equivalent DOT coding on them, I think that's the American equivalent of the EU E standard. At least that's how I read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I have asked this very question to the SVA tester; he told me DOT approved tyres are legal to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 That was my understanding regarding the american imported beadlock rims, if they were DOT approved they were good enough, but then again that was for England, they have different laws and rules in each member state as I'm finding out in each one I move to Maybe the aromatherapy oils are the publicized reason but there does appear to be a back door for everything these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think E marked would only matter when gaining type approval for a vehicle. If you ever look at a Euro/UK spec Corvette C5 or 4th Generation Camaro, you'll see they have different bumpers, lights, mirrors and E marked glass. Because they are proper fully type approved models for the European market. But it's perfectly legal to grey import a car from the USA and put it through an SVA/IVA and you won't need E-marked bits on the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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