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#1 MogLite

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 10:45 AM

Been looking at overland vehicles for a long time.
Alas for what I want a Land Rover isn't big enough, rather than go Unimog, I think a RB44 would be about right size/cost etc.

Could be a civilian Dodge 50 or Renault S75 - they seem to go under many names - but something like this.

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I've found a reasonable amount of info on the web, but I have no idea how they drive.
Has anyone driven a later one with PAS and disc brakes.
I'd be interested to know how "civilised" the driving experience is - noise, performance, vibration that kinda thing.

This is a potential long-term project - but it will still be finished before Astro_Al's Unimog :)
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 11:00 AM

I think that Walfy has some details on these. He mentioned parts as being difficult to get.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 11:40 AM

I had heard they were not very satisfactory whilst in British Army service and got dishonorably discharged. Any truth in that?
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 11:46 AM

We've got them here in Warminster. I've been here 8 months and only seen 2 move. So that tells you something. We use 1 for moving explosives around. I'll quiz the driver later hen I get hold of him. I think he's still on leave till Mon. Will report back when I know more.

Not sure how far you are from me if you wanted to pop over and have a look.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 12:47 PM

The RB was universally hated by anyone who ever drove one or fixed one. Best avoided.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 01:09 PM

Paul Wightman had one of these or similar?
3 speed auto with straight 6 petrol - reluctant to climb hills with trailer and piggy behind :angry:

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 01:26 PM

We had two at Newport for a while - they came on a truck and left on a truck.

Drove one on and off road over Thetford way - truly awful.

The Dodge 50 it is based on is superb - lovely bus

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 01:35 PM

Paul Wightman had one of these or similar?
3 speed auto with straight 6 petrol - reluctant to climb hills with trailer and piggy behind :angry:



Paul's was a 4x2 with a rubbishy Yank Petrol and a 3-speed TF727. I am sure it was good at it's role in the AWE but it was not good at towing, as you say Dave. The 4x4 ones use a similar body but do not have a lot in common mechanicaly as far as I know.

They also made these.

http://www.reynoldsboughton.com/

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 03:41 PM

just out of interest, what can it offer that a suitably bodied defender 130 couldn't offer?
currently without a 4x4 as life is getting in the way!

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 04:21 PM

I think the military versions have a perkins phaser engine, with 3 speed auto.

the brake problem was only on a few vehicles in the early days, but the MoD took the whole fleet off the road "just in case", apparently it's sorted now though.

I thnk they look neat, 9.00x16 XCL's, nice strong axles.

never driven one though, or been out on ex with any, so can;t comment on how they actually are.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 04:24 PM

Proto Sisu is big and cheap Andy? or a TGB? Mog even?
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 04:38 PM

Hmmm looks bad for the RB44's then.
Walfy - be good to get some feed back off of the driver next week - ta.

But Lovejoy has offered a glimmer of hope - in that Dodge 50's are good, but RB44's are bad.
I thought it was just badge engineering - but maybe not.
Could be a winner especially as my first choice would be an ex-Southern Electricity or similar as I want a crew-cab.

Mr Freeagent - these vehicles are rated anywhere between 5,500kg and 7,500kg ISTR. So quite a bit heavier/payload than a 130.
and this just don't look right to me.
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A Stonefield with a diesel conversion would also fit the bill, but they all seem pretty old/rare/rusty by now.

A pinzgauer is too spendy

Something 5-7.5 tonne and 4x4 crewcab is a pretty rare thing.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 05:24 PM

Mr Freeagent - these vehicles are rated anywhere between 5,500kg and 7,500kg ISTR. So quite a bit heavier/payload than a 130.
and this just don't look right to me.
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Something 5-7.5 tonne and 4x4 crewcab is a pretty rare thing.


fair enough, didn't realise you were looking for something quite that big...

I know it might be total overkill... but theres always bedford MK/MJ trucks..

have you looked at any american stuff? they do some pretty huge twin cab pick ups out there..
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 10:08 PM

They are pigs to drive and you need an anchor to stop the bleeding thing!

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 11:07 PM

Used to know someone who ran one with a big generator set on the back, for events. As far as I know the only problem he had with the brakes was when a pipe corroded through and left him with none :ph34r: I think his was the 4x4 version.

Seemed a reliable enough truck, was certainly used regularly. No idea what it was like to drive, though.

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 09:11 AM

Hi Moglite,
Saw a loverly Bedford 4x4 camper with artic camoflage over the weekend.

Just did a search on Google and came to this site for Witham:
http://www.witham-sv...tender/lots.php
Loads of ex military toys?
Found this there :P
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 02:58 PM

In Steyning there was a chap who was converting a Russian (I think) NBC protected personnel carrier - that looked pretty cool. Essentially a truck with a fairly angular body but with an air-lock on the back complete with shower. No doors apart from the air-lock. No opening windows, but plenty of Air-Con and CCTV cameras. He claimed it was nice to drive, if a bit thirsty.

No photos - no idea what it was - but it looked everso cool!

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 03:03 PM

Would a 6x6 Volvo c306 not fit the bill ?
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 04:52 PM

RB44'S i hate them with passion................... there breaks are rubbish they fall apart very quickly, and in my opinion are under powered, as usaul they probaly looked good on paper but when the company that made them for the MOD they made a pile of dog toffee. Just my thoughts lol, im not sure what the civvi versions were lke as i know southern electric where running a fleet for bit.
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 06:38 PM

Proto Sisu is big and cheap Andy? or a TGB? Mog even?


Jez, where would I find a Sisu? I've been looking for ages, but so far had no luck. :(


In answer to the original question. I found the RB to be under powered, under braked and the steering on the few I have driven was quite vauge and wouldn't be nice over a distance.

I'd go with a Volvo 303 4x4 or 6x6 if you can get away with the 3.5t GVW.

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