1985 110 or not?

[craig65]

 

Hi, first time caller.

this is my newly acquired 1985, 110 (NZ)  complete with sliding windows. However Wikipedia states wind-up's  were replaced by sliding windows in 1984? Could this be a result of latter assembly / registration? Is there a site that references trim and colour by year / model?  Faded Rowan Brown?? hard to tell in the original pic. Thanks

 

 

[miketomcat]

The body style suggests earlier. As far as I know that style was 83-84, 85 went lift up handles but with wind up windows and the rear sliding windows were in a separate frame. Other differences on the earlier 110's are the rear shocks are one front one back, the grill panel has a lock mounted in it, no ash tray in the top dash panel and series pedals. I would think it's an earlier 110 that was registered later perhaps old stock.

Mike

[ThreePointFive]

I have nothing of any value to add other than to say that is a really nice wagon.

[Anderzander]

16 minutes ago, ThreePointFive said:

I have nothing of any value to add other than to say that is a really nice wagon.

Ditto !! 
 

Perhaps it was registered slightly later with it being an export ? 
 

Whatever the reason it’s a beauty ! 

[steve b]

It certainly looks like the first release body style as Mike said - the rear series type sliding windows are correct along with the galvanised cappings . 

A very nice truck and the 1 ton rims look good on 110's as well 

Steve

[miketomcat]

Just looked at the first photo again and the 110 parked alongside is of 85 vintage yours is definitely older original build. I guess it's possible yours is one of the last sliding window out of the factory then it's traveled half way round the world. Failing that it could of come to NZ later and they got the age wrong when registering. If I remember correctly you can decide the chassis number to give the original build year.

Mike

[craig65]

Mike ,thank you for your feedback . Looking at the VIN number (SALLDHMV1AF557463) apparently the 10th character "A" denotes year. But based on below that makes her pre 1981? 

the 10th position, you'll see a letter indicating the model year. The letters from B to Y correspond to the model years 1981 to 2000. The VIN does not use I, O, Q, U or Z. From 2001 to 2009, the numbers 1 through 9 were used in place of letters. The alphabet started over from A in 2010 and will continue until 2030.

[Eightpot]

I deal with a lot of South African land rovers and a year or two difference in spec from UK cars is quite normal, usually just the delay between manufacture and eventual registration after shipping or vehicles being sent as CKD and using up old parts stock in the build.  

Very nice one ten, I'd love one of those. 

 

[monkie]

Is this an example of a Land Rover Stage One V8? I know very little about them but it looks a really nice Land Rover you have there.

I've copied and pasted below from Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_series)

From 1979 until 1985, the Stage 1 was built using some of the same components as the Range Rover and 101 Forward Control, such as the LT95 gearbox and 3.5-litre Rover V8 petrol engine. The engine was detuned to 91 hp (68 kW) from the 135BHP of the contemporary Range Rover. The vehicle came about because the competing Toyota Land Cruiser and Nissan Patrol vehicles, fitted with powerful and durable 6-cylinder engines, were making considerable inroads into the market, particularly in Australia and Africa. A V8-powered Land Rover with the Range Rover's constant 4WD system was a considerable technological advancement on the part-time 4WD and 4-cyl engines of previous variants, though the Stage 1 still used the Series III's leaf springs.

The Stage 1 was normally available only in LWB 109-inch (2,800 mm) form but 24 examples were built with the SWB 88 in (2,235 mm) wheelbase.^[6]

"Stage 1" refers to the first stage of investment by the British Government in the company to improve the Land Rover and Range Rover product offerings to counter the aforementioned market challenges, and were a transitional development on the way to the coil-sprung Land Rover 90 and 110. The use of the Range Rover engine and drive train made it the only Series III vehicle to have permanent four-wheel drive.

 

Land Rover Stage One V8 in Spain

Most of the V8 Stage 1 vehicles were exported, as the larger engine was not really sought-after by UK owners, for whom the 4-cyl 2286cc engine seemed to be sufficient and somewhat more economical. A small number may have been used by the British armed forces. However, the New Zealand Army bought 566 Stage 1 V8 Land Rovers which entered service over the period 1982 - 1986. The New Zealand Army standardised on the type, retiring the previous mixture of British- and Australian-built 88" and 109" Series 2 variants. All the V8 vehicles were 109" configuration and were supplied with a plastic-coated canvas canopy with bodywork in Deep Bronze Green. All had 24v electrics with Fitted For Radio (FFR) vehicles having a larger 100 amp generator supplied by Milspec Manufacturing Pty Ltd of Australia. Variants included a hard-top fitted vehicle used for specialist signals tasks (some of which had dual rear wheels for lateral stability to counteract the weight of additional equipment carried). There was also a white-painted 300 TDI conversion of approximately 20 vehicles, including a hard top and locally-devised disc brake conversion, for peacekeeping service with New Zealand's UNPROFOR contingent in Bosnia-Herzegovina from 1994 to 1996. The retirement of New Zealand V8 Stage 1 vehicles started from 2000, with the last examples taken out of service in 2006 once sufficient numbers of the Pinzgauer replacement vehicle became available. The vehicles were sold off in a series of disposal auctions, and many are now cherished by private owners in New Zealand.

[miketomcat]

It's not a stage one. It's the same as my 110 which is a 1983 my. As eightpot states it's probably just import delay.

Mike

[western]

On 90 & 110 VIN letter A is 1983 to 1984 see below 

B is 1985 to 1987

E is 1988

F is 1989 

G is 1990

Info from this book by James Taylor 

 

 

[craig65]

On 6/6/2021 at 9:11 PM, miketomcat said:

 

Thank you. She's def a 1983. Should help reduce the risk of ordering wrong parts. The book looks like a fathers day winner.

[monkie]

Interesting information. I have never seen a 90/110 with the old style doors and windows.

[miketomcat]

49 minutes ago, monkie said:

Interesting information. I have never seen a 90/110 with the old style doors and windows.

Yes you have you just didn't realize it. 

Mike

[miketomcat]

Here's ours the rear windows have been covered over but are still underneath. Just out of correctness it's not a defender but a land rover one ten and yours is a dambed fine example.

Mike

[monkie]

23 minutes ago, miketomcat said:

Yes you have you just didn't realize it. 

Mike

I think I was too busy getting a hernia lifting that Salisbury rear axle into the back of my 110

[Sigi_H]

Mine is a MY '83 first registered in '86. I was told, she has been a service car in the Camel Trophy in 1984. No idea if that is right

 

[miketomcat]

Ex camel would explain the later registration date. A lot of camel trucks were used unregistered or registered in the country they were used in then brought back and dumped around the factory until they got bored of them and registered then sold them off.

Mike

[monkie]

13 hours ago, Sigi_H said:

Mine is a MY '83 first registered in '86. I was told, she has been a service car in the Camel Trophy in 1984. No idea if that is right

 

That is a damn fine specimen there.