Eightpot Posted Wednesday at 11:43 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:43 AM Struggling to get the brake line threads to catch in the new TRW master cylinder. They can be tricky sometimes, but a closer look reveals it was probably made at 4.59 on a Friday 🧐 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted Wednesday at 11:57 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:57 AM My recent adventure with a genuine front calliper was similar - one seal retaining ring pressed in on the p*** at least it was replaced with no quibble and you'd hope the overall quality of the parts would at least be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted Wednesday at 12:10 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:10 PM Is it a genuine TRW one? or a knock off that's still got the markings cast in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted Wednesday at 12:22 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 12:22 PM It's one supplied via our britpart trade account so pretty sure it's legit. Surprising really as I'd have thought stuff like this would be both highly automated but also quality checked, being a brake thing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted Wednesday at 02:00 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:00 PM 1 hour ago, Eightpot said: It's one supplied via our britpart trade account so pretty sure it's legit. Surprising really as I'd have thought stuff like this would be both highly automated but also quality checked, being a brake thing... It will have been hand made in China or India by unskilled labour and the QC is all signed off fraudulently. That’s just how it is in those parts of the world. They wouldn’t sell in the volumes that needs an entire automated factory line or real QC testing and inspection, so the cheapest methods would be employed in much the same way as the wheel bearing grinding in the video recently posted. Expecting proper QC and differentiating between standards on parts because of them being for safety critical systems like brakes is a first world mentality. As for Britpart, there is also a thread talking about bean counters ruining engineering companies. It’s not just at Boeing… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted Wednesday at 04:45 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:45 PM A week ago I discovered a failure on a very, very expensive radiator supplied by a very well regarded manufacturer of aluminum products. And it's out of warranty. So the answer to the question is no. Nothing is any good any more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted Thursday at 03:13 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:13 AM 10 hours ago, ThreePointFive said: A week ago I discovered a failure on a very, very expensive radiator supplied by a very well regarded manufacturer of aluminum products. And it's out of warranty. So the answer to the question is no. Nothing is any good any more. That would be infuriating at their prices. Was it the core? Those would be bought-in, the one part they don’t manufacture themselves, but it doesn’t excuse their failure to pressure test the rad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted Thursday at 05:41 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:41 AM At the moment I'm not sure, I'll post photos in my build thread when I can be bothered. They want it back for investigation and remediation (at my expense). I'm debating buying a cheap Chinese one off eBay and treating it as a consumable, I can get several for the price of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted Thursday at 05:49 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:49 AM I've gone through two cheap Ali radiators, one failed after 18 months. No rhyme or reason to it, split where the core meets the tank. Both needed the aperture inside the oil cooler fitting opening up from 6mm to 10mm because they didn't flow enough and caused oil pressure problems. I now have a brass radiator. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted Thursday at 07:59 AM Share Posted Thursday at 07:59 AM 2 hours ago, ThreePointFive said: They want it back for investigation and remediation (at my expense). I'm debating buying a cheap Chinese one off eBay and treating it as a consumable, I can get several for the price of this one. Tempting though that is I don't like buying cheap brake bits, at least more local manufacturers stand to get in trouble if their part kills you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted Thursday at 08:05 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:05 AM 2 hours ago, miketomcat said: I've gone through two cheap Ali radiators, one failed after 18 months. No rhyme or reason to it, split where the core meets the tank. Both needed the aperture inside the oil cooler fitting opening up from 6mm to 10mm because they didn't flow enough and caused oil pressure problems. I now have a brass radiator. Mike Was this a fully welded radiator, or the plastic endcap version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted Thursday at 08:34 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:34 AM 20 hours ago, Eightpot said: Pfff Is nothing decent anymore.. We're talking Land Rover here... I'm not sure it ever was. I spent 45 years in the motor trade, roughly 25 working for British Leyland/Land Rover main dealers and independents and the rest on various Japanese makes. As much as I love a Land Rover (and I've had a few over the past 40 years), they really are utter garbage compared to the Japanese offerings. 18 hours ago, Snagger said: bean counters ruining engineering companies. As always. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted Thursday at 09:38 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:38 AM 1 hour ago, pat_pending said: As much as I love a Land Rover (and I've had a few over the past 40 years), they really are utter garbage compared to the Japanese offerings. And yet somehow we all love them, and no-one smiles & waves at a Land Cruiser... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted Thursday at 09:44 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:44 AM 1 hour ago, pat_pending said: We're talking Land Rover here... I'm not sure it ever was. I spent 45 years in the motor trade, roughly 25 working for British Leyland/Land Rover main dealers and independents and the rest on various Japanese makes. As much as I love a Land Rover (and I've had a few over the past 40 years), they really are utter garbage compared to the Japanese offerings. As always. We love the character, not the quality! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted Thursday at 09:53 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:53 AM 1 hour ago, pat_pending said: We're talking Land Rover here... I'm not sure it ever was. I spent 45 years in the motor trade, roughly 25 working for British Leyland/Land Rover main dealers and independents and the rest on various Japanese makes. As much as I love a Land Rover (and I've had a few over the past 40 years), they really are utter garbage compared to the Japanese offerings. As always. It is because we want a car that a 4 year old could draw. Recently though, other car makes are having a lot of problems too, look at Ford with the ecoboost engine, someone thought letting a rubber belt run in oil is a good idea. Several million are now produced and it turns out, that was not such a good idea. VW, PSA and others are also using this system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted Thursday at 11:10 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:10 AM 3 hours ago, Daan said: Was this a fully welded radiator, or the plastic endcap version? Fully welded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted Thursday at 11:15 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:15 AM 1 minute ago, miketomcat said: Fully welded. What I thought; I must admit, I was reluctant to accept the plastic end tank radiators, but All my road cars had them and they have never failed me. The argument of them being hard to fix in the field when they go wrong is true, but equally, I never had to fix one, ever. So I fitted one to my land rover as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted Thursday at 11:16 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:16 AM 1 hour ago, FridgeFreezer said: And yet somehow we all love them, and no-one smiles & waves at a Land Cruiser... 1 hour ago, Snagger said: We love the character, not the quality! How true! There really is no other vehicle like it, I recently considered replacing both the 110 and the Freelander with a Hilux, it would be far more practical, however... I just couldn't imagine life without a Land Rover. But lets not kid ourselves just how bad they can be, not necessarily unreliable (all mine have been great in that respect) but just the general quality of everything. Currently I'm just wishing they could have made headlinings that didn't sag! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted Thursday at 02:09 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:09 PM 2 hours ago, pat_pending said: But lets not kid ourselves just how bad they can be, not necessarily unreliable (all mine have been great in that respect) but just the general quality of everything. One of the nice things is that parts are readily available (even if of dubious quality) and it's all very simple to work on. I just watched one of the Kimberley episodes of 4WD 24/7 where a rad was punctured in an 80 series. They said it was a 2h job to get that out! I've done a complete engine swap (admittedly with an engine crane in a barn) on my 110 in 6h, about 2h to remove the engine, rad, etc., and then 4h to lift the new one back in, connect everything up and test drive it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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