streaky Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I was down at the workshop today and spotted a shiney brand spanking new 2008 Defender in the top parking spot. WTF is that doing here I asked. Any work to be done on them is under warranty from the main dealer in Dubai. Apparently one of the big sheiks bought it yesterday and doesn't like the performance of the new Transit engined 6 speed manual.... so with just 40km on the clock he bought it down to the workshop for a conversion. In place of the Transit deisel engined 6 speed power plant & box is going a JE 5.2Efi. A brand new R380 box from Ashcrofts with the smooth shift conversion...what ever that is? A full roll cage and probably a load more on top. Price for the conversion was quoted at 23,000 pounds...thats not including the price of the brand new Defender. The Sheik dropped a 6000 pound deposit to get the work started! Going spare after the conversion....one delivery mileage only Transit engine and 6 speed manual gearbox. Offers anyone? I quite like the new Defender engine set up actually...why he wants to change it is beyond me. Okay.... a 5.2 JE is no comparison really is it! S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Awsome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 With petrol at 15p a litre or whatever it is over there I think I would do that too if I had zillions in the bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Mine is a 89 with a 5.3 race developments on a 3spd AWB art-car shifter and supposedly is sub 5 seconds 0-60. I struggle to stop the wheel spin on 235/70 MT's and tarmac. My mate has a TVR and recons there is not much in it to about 75mph then the racer just runs out of gears 4 mpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Jules, sounds like you need taller tyres or higher transfer gears. I raised mine as it just stood still or went sideways in second off road. I have to say if I owned an oil well I would be looking to General Motors for my engine, not JE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimC Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 This. Thread. Is. Worthless. Without. PIX!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Mine is a 89 with a 5.3 race developments on a 3spd AWB art-car shifter and supposedly is sub 5 seconds 0-60.I struggle to stop the wheel spin on 235/70 MT's and tarmac. My mate has a TVR and recons there is not much in it to about 75mph then the racer just runs out of gears 4 mpg I need to have a go. If it's sub 5 then its a very quick car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Jules, sounds like you need taller tyres or higher transfer gears. I raised mine as it just stood still or went sideways in second off road.I have to say if I owned an oil well I would be looking to General Motors for my engine, not JE. Yes I agree I will possibly be going for transfure upgrade as I would think bigger tyres would lead to shaft problems I would expect I know very little about the old 3spd but after the weekend I would imagin I will have a better idea what I'm dealing with. Brooklyns have given me and Ali, Glen's old Td5 race spec 90 to play with take to Gaydon and show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 4 mpg <rare words in a sentence all at the same time mode on> Right, .........on that basis I would like to say that my V8 is F frugal <rare words in a sentence all at the same time mode off> Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVX90 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Which workshop did you go to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I raised mine as it just stood still or went sideways in second off road. You do have a little more than rover V8 can reasonably off though We have toyed with raising the gearing a little (still may do) as it tops out not much over 80 but the trade off in a little more top and is the acceleration. Given we spend more time accelerating that topping out not sure if it's going to be a good move to up the gearing, maybe a little would help on some courses. But with only an ickle 4.0 TVR lump need to get the best acceleration out of what power there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 The other thing to consider, Mark, is whether the gears are in the right for the rev range of the engine in relation to your usual corner exit speed. You could find you were down a gear on exit with changed gearing, requiring another gear change and probably slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoDino Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Only in Dubai...eh Streaky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 The other thing to consider, Mark, is whether the gears are in the right for the rev range of the engine in relation to your usual corner exit speed. You could find you were down a gear on exit with changed gearing, requiring another gear change and probably slower. Yes, that's why we've we been studying the graphs I created for various transfer ratios (milner box) to see how the gears compared to what we have now. Currently second seems ideal for the nadgery bits and accelerating out of the slower corners. Raising it about 1/2 a gear could have and adverse effect on this, raising a full gear bringing 1st into play more would probably be too much and give too big a gap between gears and causing the revs to drop off too much. The main box is a ZF which ovbiously gives a certain amount of slip/fuzzyness to the ratios over a direct manual. Don't generally find it hunting for gears and only occasionally find it bogging down and have to lock it down a gear - jag shifter with U gate allows this easier than the LR shifter. Shame isn't not a quick change transfer box to make it easier to try alternative gearing or even set the car up for each course. Maybe we should dig the old SAT's out for an event Oh Streaky sorry for dragging your thread OT, well not really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Yep, sorry for the hijack - are you running a Milner box? i have 'spare' 1.40 and 1.66 ratios you could borrow if you want to try them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Thanks Steve, that's a very kind offer, might take you up on that. 1.4 would be a bit too high I think, 1.66 could be an interesting choice, more in line with the gearing on the old car with 1.66 LT230. Currently running about 2 by my calculations. Not had the Milner box apart, is it an straight forward job to swap the cogs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Not had the Milner box apart, is it an straight forward job to swap the cogs? Yes, easy enough just take your time easing the bearings off the shafts and watch the oil seals. The seals are pretty poor which is probably why they leak as soon as you get get any wear where they run on the flanges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilIT Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 was at an auction the other day - 12 duratec transit engines with ancilliaries as removed (condition not known) went for .................................wait for it.....................................................gbp5k A brand new unused BMW short engine 2,5 diesel 5 cylinder went for just over gbp1k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchgit Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Streaky, when I was at Al Tayer two years ago Fadi had a 110 in there for a Sheikh as well that was converted into a hunting vehicle. There was a TD5 in there with every add on for more power you could have but it still wasn't to his liking. he bought a new Disco ( I think ,or it was a RR) with a V8 in it and had the V8 put in the defender. Any (e-mailable) pictures of the state your old 130 is currently in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streaky Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Hi Ard....the 130 has been sent to Saudi where the Sheik has a coach builders doing the custom body work. He bought a complete running Rolls Royce in Musafa just for the interior & I found him a period radiator grill on Ebay....once it's back here I'll go down to palace for a butchers and pictures etc. Moving along...I see we have a newbie here from Dubai with one of the 90SVX's....how does that POS engine go in the dunes or haven't you tried it yet? I see you went for the hard top version...good call, they are alot more practicle. Nadim!!!!! Good to see you lurking here mate! Hope all well with you and er'in doors? Any visits planned for the UAE? Regards. S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Anyone seen the new JE Engineering "Zulu" ??? http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/ It should be called a friggin "Nutter Ninja B-----d" cos with 450BHP it will disappear into the night as soon as you look at the throttle!!! Am trying very hard not to order a nice Bonatti Grey 110! Everything but my head says I "NEED" one Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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