Tris Cocks Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Im looking at getting a couple of snatch blocks for winching and recovery, Ive had a look on ebay and there are a lot of different ratings etc, Where is the best place to get them from and what ratings? Cheers Tris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 the Swingaway type are best IMHO, I've got 2 from Superwinch via Dave Bowyer. go to DavidBowyer click on winching accessories, then click 3rd row far right, hooks,snatch blocks,thimbles,shackles, mine are the silver swingaway units, they have never let me down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Cocks Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Cheers Ralph, they were the type i was looking at, do you know what rating the Superwinch ones are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkthe1 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 ive been meaning to ask for a while; we use these at work http://www.honeybros.com/gbu0-prodshow/HB91DA.html we use them for pulling trees over with a tirfor/making multiple spans, so they do work! i just wondered if anyone uses them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8CAMEL Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 ive been meaning to ask for a while;we use these at work http://www.honeybros.com/gbu0-prodshow/HB91DA.html we use them for pulling trees over with a tirfor/making multiple spans, so they do work! i just wondered if anyone uses them? i wouldnt only rated to 2000kg load which is far less than required Work load limit - 2000kg (20kN) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkthe1 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 i wouldnt only rated to 2000kg load which is far less than required sorry i more ment those as an illistration, i think they have higher rated ones on the main page. http://www.honeybros.com/gbu0-prodshow/HB91DD.html 40kn also, isnt that dead lift load as opposed to pull? i cant remeber! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Cheers Ralph, they were the type i was looking at, do you know what rating the Superwinch ones are? mine have 9.1 tonnes on the sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 ive been meaning to ask for a while;we use these at work http://www.honeybros.com/gbu0-prodshow/HB91DA.html we use them for pulling trees over with a tirfor/making multiple spans, so they do work! i just wondered if anyone uses them? I've got one of these type on my speclift trailer, red one on first page here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Speak to Anton at OEC. With some snatch blocks if you use them with synthetic rope you can sometimes loose the rope between the pulley and the cheek plate resulting in a knackered rope at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Warman Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Not to hijack the thread but what are snatch blocks used for? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8CAMEL Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Not to hijack the thread but what are snatch blocks used for?thanks double line pulls,right angle pulls etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Not to hijack the thread but what are snatch blocks used for?thanks have a read of this Steve http://www.innovation-engineering.co.uk/theory.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkthe1 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I've got one of these type on my speclift trailer, red one on first page here yeah, we use them, and sometimes just a big d shackle off a strop-depends on job. i just wondered whether people used them as there used alot in arb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treebloke Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 ive been meaning to ask for a while;we use these at work http://www.honeybros.com/gbu0-prodshow/HB91DA.html we use them for pulling trees over with a tirfor/making multiple spans, so they do work! i just wondered if anyone uses them? We also use these and with the correct rating and on dry days with synthetic rope they would be ok but they will be no good in the mud. Swing cheeks are best and like Bish said, we have had the rope slip between the pully and the cheek which is a right pain in the cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 mine have 9.1 tonnes on the sticker. I think mine did too, when it had a sticker I reckon the 2000kg is lifting as said, which will be 5:1 safety factor or more but you'd want to check that for sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Warman Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 have a read of this Steve http://www.innovation-engineering.co.uk/theory.htm Cheers Ralph, very useful info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Have seen an ARB competion snatch block. If I remember correctly it has a larger rounded trianglur hole for shackles. Pulley is larger with a different shaped groove to keep synthetic lines in the groove and prevent it being caught between pulley and the sides. Think it is rated at 9,000kg in comparison to the standard 8,000kg ARB is very slow at the moment so can not verify my comments. Personally I would be unwilling to buy a snatch block of possible unknow origin off Ebay HTH Regards Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Depends on what winch and rope your also using, with 12mm plasma I have to use 2x larger type snatch blocks Foe quick and simple I have this : http://www.devon4x4.com/products_b/p40c51/...atch-block.html For more involved and HD winching / recovery I have : http://www.liftingandcrane.co.uk/offroadre...natchblocks.php (Far LHS one) HUGE rating Bear in mind treble line pulls makes the loads jump up even higher And ALWAYS use with rated shackles and decent qulaity strops For shackles I would suggest a MINIMUM of 4.75T and bear in mind 2x strop ends and shackle etc = tight, I use 6 and 8 Tone rated shackles sometimes not just for the safety factor but for the space these give when working with them Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Black Rat ones from OEC sturdy, you can dismantle and clean and re-grease them via the grease nipple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 HFH -- And ALWAYS use with rated shackles and decent qulaity stropsFor shackles I would suggest a MINIMUM of 4.75T and bear in mind 2x strop ends and shackle etc = tight, I use 6 and 8 Tone rated shackles sometimes not just for the safety factor but for the space these give when working with them I use 3.25tonne & 4.75tonne 3/4 inch green or red pin shackles, all have the rating stamped or forged into the bow shackle body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Personally I would be unwilling to buy a snatch block of possible unknow origin off Ebay I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Bear in mind treble line pulls makes the loads jump up even higher No they don't! :P :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Cocks Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Bear in mind treble line pulls makes the loads jump up even higher The load will be the same no matter whether you are winching with a single line or using four snatch blocks, what changes is the amount of force required to move the load; the more snatch blocks - the less force required. What are the thoughts about this snatch block off Ebay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 What are the thoughts about this snatch block off Ebay? The Superwinch ones are good and ok with plasma up to 12mm too. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I had and sold on the superwinch one the groove in the pulley inside was not deep enough and the plasma rode off and down the side of the pulley, this meant I had to cut it free the pulley is also very slack, the Ones I have now are far more suited to use with plasma and have cause no such trouble again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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