Happyoldgit Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 <snip> I don't read any of the UK comics either but this has been well covered on here and other forums. Certainly has but even so it is news to some and therefore the thread IS serving a useful purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear47.lee Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 i guess the only problem is you will have to take your v5 with you to prover is not a class 7 test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefcoL Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Ok so I have a 110 with a vin plate that says 3050kg..... not looking good I also wanted to check the vin code and found this bit of info : Decoding the 17 digit Land Rover Chassis Number (VIN) It will always start with "SALL" if it doesn't be very suspicious and check it's authenticity. 1st digit S = Region and S is Europe 2nd " A = U. K. 3rd " L = British Leyland-Land Rover 4th & 5th Digits LB = Sieries III's, lightweights and Stage 1 LD = 90 and 110 LH =Range Rover Mk1 LJ = Discovery LN = Freelander LP = Range Rover Mk 2 LT = Discovery Series II 6th Digit = Wheelbase A = 88" or Freelander, & 109" on Range Rover Mk1 C = 109" and 1 Ton Truck G = 100" H = 110" and 147" K = 127" M = All Specials R = 110" S = Military 110" V = 92.3" 7th Digit = Body Type A = Truck cab & Soft Top B = 3 Door Station Wagon or Freelander E = 2 Door Crew Cab F = 4 Door Crew Cab H = High Capacity Pick-Up M = 5 Door Station Wagon and 7 Door S W R = Monteverdi RRover 8th Digit = Engine B = 2.5 4 cyl Turbo Diesel C = 2.5 N A Diesel D = 2.5 4Cyl Petrol F = 200 & 300 Tdi 2.5 4 Cyl Turbo Diesel G = 2.25 Diesel and Freelander V6 H = 2.25 Petrol M = 3.9 V8 Injection P = 2.6 6 Cyl Petrol V = 3.5 V8 Petrol (Carbs) Y = 2.0 T16 Petrol Z = 3.9 Izuzu Diesel 8 = Td5 9th Digit = Steering & Transmission 1 = RHD 4 Speed 2 = LHD 4 Speed 3 = RHD Auto 4 = LHD Auto 5 = RHD 4 Speed + Overdrive 6 = LHD 4 Speed + Overdrive 7 = RHD 5 Speed 8 = LHD 5 Speed 10th Digit = Model - Year A = up to 1983 B = 1985 E = 1988 F = 1989 G = 1990 H = 1991 J = 1992 K = 1993 L = 1994 M = 1995 N = 1996 ? = 1997 ? = 1998 W = 1999 ? = 2000 1 = 2001 2 = 2002 11th Digit = Assembly Location A = Solihull F = CKD V = South Africa 12th to 17th Digits are the Chassis Serial Number at least I now know how to read the Vin/chassis/frame number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godlykepower Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 I'm glad that some people are finding this useful! I no longer buy any magazines - partly as I lost my job for a couple of months last year and could not afford to, and mainly because they are filled with an amazing amount of carp - so I have not read about this subject anywhere. As the subject of MoT's is not something I tend to think about often, it is very easy to have this one pass you buy - its not a case of having your head buried in the sand. I only happened on this as I was bored one evening and just happened to look at a thread that ordinarily I would not bother reading, as that did not really interest me, and it was within that thread I discovered all this. I, as are others, am a member of other fora (plural of forums?) but hardly ever visit them as I find them to be filled with even more nonsense than the magazines *cough* LRA - and therefore its easy to miss this subject again. So, to sum up, (and I doubt I am alone in saying this) but LR4x4 is my primary source of information for all things Land Rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonost24 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 My 90 states 3499 on the V5. The chassis plate shows 4 lots of weights - from the top 2400,5900, 1-1200, 2-1380. I suppose my vehicle weight should read 2400 then. Are the others 5900 gross laden weight with the other two being axle weights?? I also checked the chassis number which ties up with the V5 BUT, mine has been converted from a 2.5 diesel to a 3.5 V8 Efi with auto, so the chassis digits do not completely tie up with Defcol decoding. Is this a problem ??? Cheers, Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Your VIN not matching the coding due to an engine change is not an issue. As long as the V5 has the correct info on the V8 it's fine. Your VIN plate numbers match mine exactly, and my V5 also says 3499Kg gross. So I've taken a picture of the VIN plate and will send it off to be corrected I think the last two are axle weights yes, don't know what the second figure (5900) is, possible max train weight or something? Edit: Yes it is: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonost24 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Is it necessary to take a photo? After all, it could be any VIN plate !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Is it necessary to take a photo? After all, it could be any VIN plate !! Yes, but presumably the vin number should match what is on the V5 and therefore what is linked to your number plate - so it cant be any vin plate really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonost24 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Doh!! Of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 The requirement for a class 7 on certain vehicles will only apply when the duel purpose vehicle catagory dissappears. At the moment it's still there, I MOTed a Hi-cap pick up this week, so had to check, still class 4. The last special notice from VOSA said it would go "early 2010", so it's anyones guess. As soon as I know I'll post it up here. There are going to be lots of owners who wont know they need a class 7 until they take the thing in and get told "sorry, can't do it". Unless they're going to write to all the owners of affected vehicles, can't see that happening. There are only a few extra checks on a class 7 and these shouldn't concern the average L/R. So if yours will pass a class 4 it will pass a class 7. So, as long as you know what class you will be in when the test is due there should be no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 My v5 states a revenue weight of 3499kg, there is no weight given on my VIN plate. Anybody know what the revenue weight should be for a series 2a SWB petrol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godlykepower Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 My v5 states a revenue weight of 3499kg, there is no weight given on my VIN plate.Anybody know what the revenue weight should be for a series 2a SWB petrol? Dave, I found this excerpt for you from the link mentioned earlier....dont know if it helps? For Series 3 before 1979, the GLW is given in the handbook as 2120kg for 88 inch vehicles, 2710kg for 109 inch (except the very rare One Ton model). I do not have figures for earlier vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Dave, I found this excerpt for you from the link mentioned earlier....dont know if it helps? That's fantastic - it ties in nicely with what the car actually weighs too. On a recent visit to the tip to dispose of a quantity of kitchen, I wasn't allowed through the regular entrance as it's a truck cab, and in the eyes of the local council 'commercial', so I had to go in over the weigh bridge - on the way out it recorded 2100kg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 That's fantastic - it ties in nicely with what the car actually weighs too. On a recent visit to the tip to dispose of a quantity of kitchen, I wasn't allowed through the regular entrance as it's a truck cab, and in the eyes of the local council 'commercial', so I had to go in over the weigh bridge - on the way out it recorded 2100kg. For Series 2a: s2a.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Interesting post. As a direct result, my V5 is now sat corrected in an envelope, ready to go in the post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilloverland Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 So could I jut buy one of those blank VIN plates off the internet, stamp on my VIN number and put the weight at 2999 kgs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 So am I correct to write 2400 on my V5, as that is the number shown in part C ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 YES, If shown as the Maximum vehicle weight on the VIN plate, that needs to agree with the V5 Reg document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 this is what my plate looks like. My revenue weight to write on the V5 is 2400. Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 this is what my plate looks like. My revenue weight to write on the V5 is 2400. Correct? Yes Ross 2400 kg is correct to go on your V5 reg doc, you'll notice that the front & rear axle weights added together = 2580kg But doesn't mean you can load the vehicle to 2580, the one to be under or spot on is the max gross of 2400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Excellent thanks. on a slightly OT... currently the V5 states 'pick-up'. what do i need to put in to indicate a station wagon? (all be it only 2 seats). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 What does the VIN identify it as? As per the list below (seventh character I think). A Basic Soft Top Pickup Hardtop Van Commercial Freelander 3 Door Commercial Discovery 3 or 5 Door B Series III 88" Station Wagon Defender 3door Station Wagon Range Rover Classic 2 door Discovery 3 door Freelander 5 Door F Defender 4 door Crew cab non Hi-capacity H High Capacity Pick Up with/without crew cab M Defender 5door Station Wagon Range Rover Classic 5 door Range Rover (38A) 5 door Discovery 5 door R Range Rover Moneverdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 6th digit is apparently wheelbase according to a previous post in this thread. 7th is bosy type... ''A = Truck cab & Soft Top'' ''SALLDVAC_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Yep, sorry it is seventh. My post above corrected. A relates to all those in my list above under 'A' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 so what should I be writing as the 'new' body type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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