Peter Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Has anyone been able to use their winch as a crane ? I need to lift a rear axle onto a trailer - and would make sense to use the vehicle, especially the winch - any thoughts ? Also might use it to lift an engine if possible too. Cheers Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MogLite Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I was too lazy to empty my toolbox when adding a 3-drawer step up chest I think there was a snatch block on the rafters - it was a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Just pick it up fronts are 1/2 as heavy again as rears just for info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I've thought about making a rig on an axle to use for moving boats about. For one-off use, you could build something stationary out of scaffold etc. the hassle of containing and using the pull/lift could make it quite complicated, you don't want to just pull the A - frame into your bonnet! as an aside, looks like using a pulling winch for lifting is a big no-no in terms of HSE, any grown-ups i've mentioned it to have started shaking their head quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MJG Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 autotrader editorial have a read. For me they lose credibility with the chosen pic......... Since when was a Landrover Defender classed as a SUV ........... What a bunch of W@..... woops look out here comes a MOD......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 yes its a big no no, not rated for lifting just pulling etc. so stand well clear when you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 agreed, adverts arent the way id like to see this forum go. however a repituble supplier of a product thats being discussed giving honest info about the product can only be a good thing. a decent supplier will have a lot of knowledge about the product & able to tell you why its good/bad for that application. does it really matter if someone says i sell 'xyz' & its good for that task becuase & gives honest reasons or someone else says so & so sells 'xyz' & its good cause & lists the same reasons. IMHO problems start if people say you need 'xyz' that i sell cause its perfect for that, when infact there are better options or 'xyz' is just pain unsuitable for the task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Does make the use of winches on some challenge punches interesting though, once your winching at more than 45 degrees from the horizontal, you're lifting more than your're pulling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Personaly couldnt give a F*** im afraid, what does it matter I have to say, after 4 pages of going round in circles and away from the original topic, Bathtub expresses exactly what I am thinking; we need more like you! Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Okay so its back to using a high-lift jack to raise one end onto the trailer, and 4 waffle boards, then drag it on with the winch. I can see a harvey frost style A-frame might work, so long a it can be secured at an angle ? with something, either a ground support post or a couple of cables held by a roof bar or two, to the a-frame or via roller bars back to the rear hitch. And using a couple of snatch blocks to reduce the load. Would make an interesting problem for one of those challenge events. BTW I know its a big no no, but a front mounted Land Rover winch should be used for self recovery - so if the vehicle is stationary, thats a huge amount of power not being utilised to lift the equivalent of a 100kg tree trunk. Thanks, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Ok as they said again on Top Gear on Sunday . That you can't be a real petrol head untill you have an alfa. Well since they first said this i have always thought that Land Rover should also be included in with this. After all they admit the only rerson for this is the fact that they are not reiable and do break down, plus have so much character, so you end up loving them and their faults. mmm sounds like a Land Rover to me So does this make us all real petrol heads Am i alone on this or what is everyone else thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 And with that final word if anyone has a burning desire to add thoughts of wisdom to this fine thread please PM a Moderator or Admin so they can let you in so to speak. other wise we(collective we) will have to see this go on and on and on. if you want a change post up a poll and hope loads of others agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoatBuoy Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Dear Claims Direct... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I've used my Husky to refit a rebuilt engine into a Series 1 chassis a few years back, the small hand block/tackle wouldn't work, so using the lifting frame [4 leg version & crossbeam] we used my winch to do the heavy stuff, worked really well & all done very slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 what axles are you collecting Peter? Rover axles bar 101 versions aren't that heavy 2 people makes them easy to lift I managed(struggled) on my own to lifta front/rear into a trailer recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 cant see any need for an alfa myself, rusty breakable piles of solihull (opps slipped up) carp. at least LRs look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Can't you grab a helping hand? A mate and I have carried a salisbury axle and put it on a flatbed, not in a rush to do it again, but it wasn't too bad. Edit: sorry tony, posted at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 More like Diesel heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Have an Alfa ? Id rather shove stanley blades up my arse , At least Land rovers last more than 3 years . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Has anyone been able to use their winch as a crane ? I need to lift a rear axle onto a trailer - and would make sense to use the vehicle, especially the winch - any thoughts ? Also might use it to lift an engine if possible too. Cheers Peter Have a mate who used to go to a corner of his site and change his front springs by attc the winch cable to a branch and winching the car up into the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Can't you grab a helping hand?A mate and I have carried a salisbury axle and put it on a flatbed, not in a rush to do it again, but it wasn't too bad. Yes, but wanted to see who has an answer - yes we've all done things we should not do ref; health and safety for all you namby pambied 1980's cotton wooled kids out there - but, if your on your own and you need to lift a hefty weight, how can you use your winch to do it ? Surely there must be some Army tricks to do it, in the field. Broke 2 heavy duty cheap t-max winches last year recovering my landrover so doubt using it as a lifting device will break it. Now that I have a proper Warn winch, and often use it to drag heavy fallen trees out the way, even other landrovers. Obviously I know anything like this is at my own risk, and no-one should ever do anything they feel is dangerous or stupid. Like putting themselves under a vehicle that just supported with a high-lift jack - seen this loads of times - but too scary for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Funny, Dave H sold his Alfa because it was too reliable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Funny, Dave H sold his Alfa because it was too reliable Not the one i towed back from Bristol he did not Did the alfa thing of snapping a cambelt 10,000 miles before it was due to be changed, cost him a bloody fortune to get it fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Was that a reference to exerciseel engines by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Just like LandRovers,Alfas are overpriced enthusiasts cars over here that have virtually no resale value after 5 years, despite the fact that cars generally last around 4 times longer than they do in the UK. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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