Hybrid_From_Hell Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hmmmm Fan thinking at the mo, I have used PACET in the past, seem ok, checking the CFM on flows seems they are significantly higher output fans than the Kenlowe ones ??, actaully the CFM of the pacets are so much higher than the Kenlowes I'm actually wondering if the figs are true ??? So, pacet or kenlowe and why ? Discuss Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 i've always bought kenlowe, they have removeable blades and reversable, dont know about pacet though. another option could be spal fans, all the money though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 i've always bought kenlowe, they have removeable blades and reversable, dont know about pacet though. another option could be spal fans, all the money though Coor you two are on the ball earley this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Coor you two are on the ball earley this morning isn't it your bed time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 isn't it your bed time? It might shock you Mark but i am still at work , and its 3.50 in the afternoon, new experiance for me this working late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 u need to get to work earlier, but then u'd have no one to talk to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 u need to get to work earlier, but then u'd have no one to talk to I know boring on this site all day. No ones up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02GF74 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I have used PACET in the past, seem ok, checking the CFM on flows seems they are significantly higher output fans than the Kenlowe ones ??, actaully the CFM of the pacets are so much higher than the Kenlowes I'm actually wondering if the figs are true ??? So, pacet or kenlowe and why ? I believe Pacet are cheaper. As for CFM, I'm sure one could think of different methods and different conditions for measuring these. Likewise one would expect similar fans i.e. same diameter, same depth of blade and most importantly drawing similar amount of amps would have very similar CFM figures. If it were me, and it is, I would go to scrap yard first - both of mine come from there - much cheaper plus you may get a nice cowl. (I said coal not cow!) The p & k fans do not have cowls so need to be mounted very close to the radiator. One may be forced to fit one of the two brands mentioned ^^^ since they have shorter motors i.e. can fit into a narrower space. Also they are avaialble in 12 V and 24 V flavours; you would need to go to a bus or lorry graveyard for one of those. Both the P & K as well as fans ripped out of old scrappers can be controlled by a thermostat/relay. As for reliability, who knows - it is usually the kenlowe thermostat that packs in after being dunked in mud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 After looking at price/size/CFM I bought a pacet for my gearbox oil cooler, seems to do the job. But doesn't shift anywhere near as much air as teh mondeo fans on the rad, although they are a bit bigger 12" vrs 9" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Another vote for a visit to a scrappy. I got a 15" fan perfect (ok a little bit of tinkering) for the 200tdi rad, with a low profile motor, for a tenner. Oh and i got a spare for free. there were plenty of smaller fans about. bit more info here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Nige I'm just wondering if this is connected with the que Tonk asked, and you are after a fan or two for your rad. In which case I would strongly suggest a pair of mondeo twin leccy fans. They shift a **** load of air, my second one had never come on yet. Bish ahd the same fans on his V8 and found them very effective too. The cowl is an almost perfect fit for a 90 rad and is low profile enough to fit a V8 90 with the engine in the factory position. Picked mine up on ebay for a fiver, not worth getting my hands dirty down the scrappers for that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Nige I'm just wondering if this is connected with the que Tonk asked, could be hmmm, nice fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 could be hmmm, nice fit mmm that is a nice fit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Yup, Modeo V6 with aircon is what you're looking for. Can cool from off the scale to normal in under a minute ( blown fuse caused the overheating so I replaced the fuse and watched the temp gauge - very scientific I know! ) The cowl is also an excellent fit on the RR V8 radiator. I think it is a bit risky to spend over £100 on Pacet or Kenlowe and then go dunking them in muddy water at every opportunity. They may be more resilient than a Mondeo fan, but you can get 10 sets for the price of one! My 2p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 So, pacet or kenlowe and why ? Viscous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Nige - scrapheap for me every time. Mondeo ones are damn effective and Ford have a bigger budget for developing fans that work than Kenlowe/Pacet/Spal put together. French stuff (Laguna/Picasso/Xantia/206) has big & flat fans made by Gate. Also, I find the factory cowlings are far better to make fit than the standard Kenlow/Pacet method of cable tying the damn thing to the rad or suspending it by a couple of bars in free air near the rad. On my Mondeo one I cut the cowling about, then edged it with door rubber off a metro to make a nice seal to the rad without damaging it. Edit: I've just remembered I have a pair of 12" kenlowes in the garage that came off the 109, what am I bid? B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istruggle2gate11 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Scarap heapers for me too. In desperation and panic engineering (on the day of a comp.), I replaced my broken 16" pacet with a 12" Fiesta one for £3, it cooled the v8 better than the 16" pacet ever did, even when brand new (and working!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Add an X-eng fan switch and a "kill" switch to turn 'em off when splashing through water and you're away. Provided you don't try to run them while submerged they should cope fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Viscous I agree A viscous is far better than any elec fans but I was watching this because the tomcat has the rad in back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Mates Simmbuggini has the rad in the back with twin mondeo fans, same as mine, and that has no probs cooling the 4.6 and it gets very hot under the hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Why viscous? I've heard a lot of people busting viscous fans but very few busting electrics (in fact only one and they weren't great fans to start with). I also believe the viscous wears out the water pump bearings more quickly, it's just a theory though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 i've busted lots of leccy fans, even some when the rad crushed em onto the engine, hmmmmm i should've braked earlier any options for pusher fans on the front of a 90 so the viscous is kept on the w/pump aswell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 speak to HFH about this as i think he might have sorted some pusher fans out recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 i've busted lots of leccy fans, even some when the rad crushed em onto the engine, hmmmmm i should've braked earlier Is there anything you haven't busted lots of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 speak to HFH about this as i think he might have sorted some pusher fans out recently. err it is for him that i am asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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