landroversforever Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I hope that mount isn't finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangover Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I'm using the Mercedes auto, so no adaptor ring. It would be a bit of a lash up to make the rear sump fit the box without joining the old rear back on. Are you using an LT230 adapted to the merc 722 auto ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Yes I will be. Either close coupled or with a short shaft between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hector-boy Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Proud owner of an average mile 150k e300 '98. 550 euro. Bit more than I wanted to pay but wheels are good condition and scraping the car once I am finished should recoup half the the initial cost. Now the question is the gearbox. Use the auto with standalone controller with divorced lt230. Or 6 speed manual from a clk merc. Or adapter plate and r380/lt230. I am not particularly pushed with auto box but its a smooth ride in the car and would handle the increased bhp that the mods might bring. Also I don't have a v8 r380 box. So that would be a recon box from ashcroft. A bit pricey given the exchange rate but piece of mind knowing what you get will work as advertised. This is all going into a 2 door range rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Hector-Boy is from the Euro-zone... that's clear.. :-) Can you (or somebody else) help me with the length of the Merc auto box? (5G-Tronic / 722.6) If I may believe Wiki it is capable of nearly 800lb-ft / 1100Nm !!??!! Bomb proof I guess? I am looking for the distance between bell housing to flange of the donut mounting without the donut. And the donut size itself. Thinking (out loud) of short coupled remote LT230 setup in combination with the 722.6. Maybe lining up the Auto box and LT230 with a sort of subframe attached to bell housing bolts / gearbox rear mounting / mounting flange from the LT230 and using the Merc-donut for direct coupling to an LT230 inputshaft (Rakeway or LR autobox inputshaft). In this way I can stay away from fabricating difficult adapter plates and can do with some simple work on a Lathe for the inputshaft. For the rest making a subframe which uses the available mounting points and bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'll get some measurements when I'm next in the workshop. There are lots of versions of the Merc box, some will take that power some won't. If it's any use for now, the back of the gearbox housing (excluding the donut mount) is I think 540mm off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Well, If it can take half of that torque it will be good for me! :-) Thank you for the info so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matfield Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 The 722.6 is 670mm from the bellhousing to the rear mount/output flange. This was measured on an 1998 e300td. Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matfield Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Also... If you're looking for max torque and unmodified bolt up to the 606 you'll need the box out of a c270cdi. Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Thanx Mat, Just for sure: that is the distance excluding the donut itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matfield Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 As far as I can remember it's as far as the rear mount, but there's only about 5-10mm between the rear mount and the output flange, the rear mount being slightly further back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Allright, all clear now... The rearmount is a bracket attached to the back of the gearbox. So could be application dependent. Thanks again :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanger Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 i'm running a '99 e300. i'm planning on running e300 engine and autobox on modified ecu and gearbox controller. Divorced lt230 on short shaft using the donut one end and a spline into the LT at the other.LT will be mounted into the chassis on rubber mounts and auto box will be mounted as per mercedes using the rear gearbox cross member. Love this engine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Has anyone done a manual conversion that they could post what flywheel and clutch they have used to take the power of a tweaked 606? (Only about 250hp). Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloz Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I measured yesterday a V8 ZF Autobox which is exactly 670mm from flange to flange. Mat are you sure about your 670mm for he Merc Box? Also because laro4ever stated 540mm excluding donut.. :-S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloz Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 @ Wanger: you want to let live the auto box and T-case on their own rubber mounts and keep them lined up bij the shortshafts & donut?? I think the donut, shafts and bearings from the autobox and LT230 will have a hard life... :-S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanger Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 @ Wanger: you want to let live the auto box and T-case on their own rubber mounts and keep them lined up bij the shortshafts & donut?? I think the donut, shafts and bearings from the autobox and LT230 will have a hard life... :-S i don't think so.the movement is twisting action so rotational around prop.same with the TB. I can also make a bracket off the rear mount that can hold the two together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslandroverman Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Wouldn't a variant of the Merc box from an ML be easier to adapt? Take the merc transfer box off the back and you've got a splined output shaft and a flat rear face that's ideal for attaching an adapter plate to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 That's what Ross is doing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 The ML box is what I'm using. The adaptor isn't as easy as it might appear, but doable. The Merc output is a large ~50mm diameter female spline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloz Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 i don't think so.the movement is twisting action so rotational around prop.same with the TB. I can also make a bracket off the rear mount that can hold the two together. Twisting action.. that is obvious.. But it is mounted in a car which moves so the engine with gearbox want to move in another way than the divorced transfer box because there are other forces acting on it depending on the position in the car. So the driveshaft must do more than only transfer torque, but also take lateral forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslandroverman Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 That's what Ross is doing....That would be Ross who I had half a conversation with about it on facebooks.Forums names confuse stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Which one are you then Daslandroverman? I get lost with people too!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslandroverman Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 There are some who call me... Dave. Dave Marsh is my usual title on facebooks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hector-boy Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Anyone used Scandinavian marine trading for the adapter plate between om606 and r380. Any comments on quality and correct fit would be greatly appreciated. Hb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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