Glue Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Morning all, Hopefully I'll be picking up my new beasty this weekend, and then the fun of sorting it out starts. One of the jobs I've got to sort out are the front end recovery points. At present there's nothing, so I'm intending to fit a pair of jate rings. Looking round there seem to be a lot of people making them, at wildly differing prices (£15 a pair to £35 each!), so who's good and who's not? Should I avoid anybody, or who's doing reasonable prices for them at the moment. Answers on a postcard... Glue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Personally I use the genuine (cast) ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Get cast ones - I've seen some shocking quality on the welded ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 (edited) Fridge use the genuine LR cast ones, IIRC RRC3237, But they won't fit a Series vehicle, only 90/110 & Defenders have them, Series trucks were heli lifted with chains around the spring hangers. Edited August 18, 2006 by western Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Not that I've paid a deal of attention but I thought they were forged rather than cast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Not that I've paid a deal of attention but I thought they were forged rather than cast? Hmm, believe your correct TB, probably the extrenal finish that makes them look like a cast item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Fridge use the genuine LR cast ones, IIRC RRC3237, But they won't fit a Series vehicle, only 90/110 & Defenders have them, Series trucks were heli lifted with chains around the spring hangers. So what are the cast eyes that military nerds have bolted to the bumper bolts of series? The ones that are much abused as recovery eyes? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 So what are the cast eyes that military nerds have bolted to the bumper bolts of series? The ones that are much abused as recovery eyes?Chris there not JATE rings, the bumper mounted eyes/rings are for lifting onto trucks/ships not for underslinging below helicopters. & are also standard LR genuine parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 the bumper mounted eyes/rings are for lifting onto trucks/ships not for underslinging below helicopters. & are also standard LR genuine parts. Aha. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 no idea about forged cast or anything else i'm afraid. but whaever you do stay away from cheapo welded ones- when i first started off roading a few years ago, i bought a set, and the very first time i took the vehicle out (and got stuck of course) one let go with a hell of a bang (and we weren't using a blanket!). I almost gave up off roading there and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 thought you had given up offroading Jim! value for money are JATE rings, bling one David Bowyer i guess, his are machined so that the rod you pull off (!) is stepped down into the arms and then welded. i have seen other that are jsut rods with arms welded to the ends, i would stay clear of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOA 93 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Genuine JATE rings, secondhand military ones were about £6 each at Billing, boxes full of them bought 4 myself, maybe wait a week a week till the LRO show, bound to be there aswell, genuine ones are very expensive new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 In case anyone wondered, the JATE stands for Joint Air Transport Establishment. they are the department in charge of "how to airlift heavy green stuff with wheels/tracks" B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 In case anyone wondered, the JATE stands for Joint Air Transport Establishment.they are the department in charge of "how to airlift heavy green stuff with wheels/tracks" B) JATEU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I'm with Ralph on this, only use the genuine Land Rover ones. After seeing military 90's and 110's recovered and lifted on them, you wouldn't want to take a chance on fabricated ones. Ralph is correct, the Land Rover part number is RRC3237 Genuine ones have RRC3237 in raised letters/numbers on the ring - Britpart copies are identical, except for this (and we all know how 'good' some Britparts are, don't we ) There is also a genuine parts widened version, part number ZXC9435 This is 97mm across the throat, compared to 85mm on RRC3237 - If you want lifting/towing rings on your bumper mounts, again I would only use the genuine ones and limit their use to towing on the road as they're not really up to recovery or lifting forces, even though Land Rover describe them as 'lifting/towing rings'. There are two types - one for Series and one for Defender. But there's no reason why you couldn't use either type on either vehicle. The Defender type is part number NRC9011 and looks like this - The Series type is part number 242139 singly, or 267950 as a pair - There's a lot of very nasty looking copies of the Series type around and I personally would avoid them. Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I wouldn't touch some of the garbage welded up ones. As it happens I don't use them at all, but that is only because the winch mount/steering guard doesn't allow it on my 90. You might well ask though, if you are putting a lot of load through them, is it sensible even using 2 and a bridle - bearing in mind that even using both sides you only have 2 x M10 bolts taking all the load... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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