blowmeover Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 5:00 PM, Badger110 said: I picked mine up today, very pleased. One top is brand new, the other in near perfect shape for its age. No stressing on the corners or signs of anything untoward. i had to replace the ns door bottom with a new piece but given both doors cost less than a single top piece’s current prices new, it’s a small addition. Exactly the same tops as mine, they are a great bit of kit, check the felt is still working to stop them rattling. Can I ask where you got the bottoms from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 The O/S is perfect felt wise as it's new, but the N/S is older and thus rattles like buggery. I've got some new stuff being delivered by someone to replace the felt with a rubber channel which is lined with a softer material and is apparently the bee's knees, i'll let you know! The N/S door bottom was bought from Ebay; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Series-3-Defender-Front-Door-Bonded-395534-Left-Hand-IN-STOCK/372557337487?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowmeover Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, Badger110 said: The O/S is perfect felt wise as it's new, but the N/S is older and thus rattles like buggery. I've got some new stuff being delivered by someone to replace the felt with a rubber channel which is lined with a softer material and is apparently the bee's knees, i'll let you know! The N/S door bottom was bought from Ebay; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Series-3-Defender-Front-Door-Bonded-395534-Left-Hand-IN-STOCK/372557337487?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Whats the quality like? Are the two door bottoms identical? I take it the o/s is genuine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Yup O/s and N/S were genuine but N/S is massively damaged, looks like someone tried to rip the door off so the hinge section of the Aluminium has split and the frame behind has rusted through. If you had time and patience you probably could repair the frame and re skin it, but i've enough on my plate without worrying about that for now. On the new door, the welds look ok and overall can't see any issues with it..it's a steel frame with a alu skin bonded to it, what can go wrong?! 😂 haven't fitted anything yet so that'll be the real test I ordered it on Sunday and it arrived on Tuesday which was pretty good for an Ebay purchase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 I did notice on the N/S top that there is a stress crack on the bottom corner. It hasn't manifested itself into anything too bad, but the hairline crack is there. I'm considering riveting a small plate across it as tig welding is beyond me for the time being, at least it'll give it some benefit, if not alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowmeover Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Badger110 said: I did notice on the N/S top that there is a stress crack on the bottom corner. It hasn't manifested itself into anything too bad, but the hairline crack is there. I'm considering riveting a small plate across it as tig welding is beyond me for the time being, at least it'll give it some benefit, if not alot Isnt that part of it just a skin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, blowmeover said: Isnt that part of it just a skin? The tops do not have skins. They are solid aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 Not having much luck finding a 2nd set of 2nd row doors with sliding windows, i came across these at Paddocks; https://www.paddockspares.com/catalog/product/view/id/6471/ To me they look like the 2nd row lift up with sliding window doors. Can anyone confirm before i buy them? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinstig Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Paintman sells the door bottoms, you will then have to track down the tops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Not sure what they are. They do look like they take sliding windows but mine are two piece. So I suspect they are first incarnation of wind up windows (85 onwards from memory). Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 Does the glass sliders at the top of your doors slot into the door frame? It looks like it does in the picture On those i listed, the window frame area is flat with no visible signs of the glass slider sitting in anything Then again i can't see how the window winding mechanism fix's to anything on the lower door frame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Are you wanting the one piece or two piece? Your link is the one piece. You would then need to get all the bits. Here are the two piece complete (need to also buy the cappings): https://www.sp-4x4.com/DEFENDER_SERIES_DOOR_CONVERSION_p/defconv2g.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 In the time between my first question and this one, i found a pair of one piece, sliding window variety for half the price, so quite happy. They are naked doors, so all the glazing, locks and such will need to be bought, but i've saved myself a few quid over buying a pair from paddocks or SP4x4. I will need to fashion a fake capping on these though as it's going to look abit odd otherwise ( i have 2 piece front doors ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurbie Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Badger110 said: I will need to fashion a fake capping on these though as it's going to look abit odd otherwise ( i have 2 piece front doors ) you don't need to fabricate these yourself .... on the 1984 "facelift" model , they used 1 piece doors , with a capping to look like 2 piece doors , think the number is : muc3930-muc1931 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, hurbie said: you don't need to fabricate these yourself .... on the 1984 "facelift" model , they used 1 piece doors , with a capping to look like 2 piece doors , think the number is : muc3930-muc1931 Excellent find hurbie, thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 My next question is, if i purchase the ignition and door lock set that fits TD5 and 2002 later models, are those barrels likely to fit in the AB Locks? from what i can see, the later version locks are a tad longer and maybe wider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 The lower window runner is the one that comes out to get the glass in. Top, front and back are all felt runners. The bottom is a track and runner, you remove the track (it's a pig to get out) then the runners just lift off with the glass. Yes the td5 locks are longer. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Badger110 said: My next question is, if i purchase the ignition and door lock set that fits TD5 and 2002 later models, are those barrels likely to fit in the AB Locks? from what i can see, the later version locks are a tad longer and maybe wider? Probably not, the keyed alike door and ignition barrels are a good bit bigger and a new push button door handle with a larger barrel hole to accommodate the larger barrel was made. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 You can get the same keys for everything, if you want, but you need to change to a non-locking ignition switch. This is what you get in an MOD Defender. I have one key that does everything on mine, all doors, ignition and fuel cap and I have split doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, Red90 said: you need to change to a non-locking ignition switch. If you mean an ignition switch that locks the steering be careful as from a couple of years ago for MOT's ignition switches have to lock the steering I had a 92 Disco 1 that failed because ignition did not lock steering wheel Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Well that is silly. Why would vehicle security be a concern for an MOT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 No argument from me Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 10:28 PM, Badger110 said: The O/S is perfect felt wise as it's new, but the N/S is older and thus rattles like buggery. I've got some new stuff being delivered by someone to replace the felt with a rubber channel which is lined with a softer material and is apparently the bee's knees, i'll let you know! The N/S door bottom was bought from Ebay; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Series-3-Defender-Front-Door-Bonded-395534-Left-Hand-IN-STOCK/372557337487?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 What's the name of the stuff you are getting to replace the felt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 You can buy the actual stuff, it is cheap. If you have Defender style tops, the Garrison seals are the best. https://www.mudstuff.co.uk/garrison-door-top-seal-kit.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Gazzar said: What's the name of the stuff you are getting to replace the felt? Well i was coming to that It's identical to the garrison door stuff but half the price, i have a friend who had to buy it on a large roll and has a fair amount left over. I was going to do a fitting session so you can see and then if you want some, we can sort out some kits for people 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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