Arnie91 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Hey Fellow LR owners, I'm currently running rims (16x10) on 305/70/16R Nitto Mud Grappler Tyres (33 inch) They are off-road and i'm trying to get the closest alternative which is road legal as I drive in London and don't want to risk getting 3 points for each tyre. Current Alternative for same rims: ST PRO COOPER or the BFgoodrich KM3 only do these sizes but they are again, also offroad. They are less aggressive than the Nitto Mud Grapplers so I might raise less attention. Changing Rim Sizes: I think my only alternative and what makes sense ahead of a big brake build (6 pot Tarox) is to increase the rim size, and decrease the tyre profile, without losing the height of the defender 90. Would anyone be able to recommend what reduction in profile I could take with 18, and then 20 inch rims to keep the same look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Arnie91 said: Current Alternative for same rims: ST PRO COOPER or the BFgoodrich KM3 only do these sizes but they are again, also offroad. They are less aggressive than the Nitto Mud Grapplers so I might raise less attention. They're off-road biased, doesn't mean they're not allowed on the road. As long as they have the right markings for road use, all is ok. Or has London introduced some silly unenforceable regulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I will second this and am not aware of any new regulations for the UK or London Awesome looking 90 though, can we have some more pictures please? What have you got under the bonnet? And which country is it from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 You'd think they would tell you if not legal, on here, if they weren't: https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/Tyres/Nitto/MUD-GRAPPLER/LT305-70-R16-118-115P-POR/R-344122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 They are speed rated P up to 93mph so road legal Not seen those before , how are they off road ? cheers Steve b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 "Professional Off-Road" abbreviation: tyres for commercial traffic use. POR tyres are specially designed for bad rolling conditions or for deteriorated roads conditions. Information: POR tyres do not have EU labels as they do not meet the tyre EU labeling directives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I seem to recall the "Professional Off-Road" classification was introduced to allow specialised tyres to still be sold, even if the manufacturers can't be bothered to do the testing necessary for the EU classification (the letters for noise, economy etc). Which could mean they are considered illegal for use on public roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) On 10/7/2020 at 1:17 PM, L19MUD said: I will second this and am not aware of any new regulations for the UK or London Awesome looking 90 though, can we have some more pictures please? What have you got under the bonnet? And which country is it from? As noted below, they have the POR marking, which I don't think is specifically road legal right? I'll get some more. There's a chevy V8 engine with NOS, something very special but isnt finished. Made in the UK but was in Europe for a bit, just brought it back into the uK. 5 hours ago, Escape said: I seem to recall the "Professional Off-Road" classification was introduced to allow specialised tyres to still be sold, even if the manufacturers can't be bothered to do the testing necessary for the EU classification (the letters for noise, economy etc). Which could mean they are considered illegal for use on public roads. This is what I was assuming. Edited October 8, 2020 by Arnie91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 23 hours ago, Bowie69 said: You'd think they would tell you if not legal, on here, if they weren't: https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/Tyres/Nitto/MUD-GRAPPLER/LT305-70-R16-118-115P-POR/R-344122 I called them up and they said they were off-road use tyres. So it looks like I might need to increase the rim size and decrease the tyre size in order to keep the height of the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Anyone got an example of road legal markings on the tyres? Edited October 8, 2020 by Arnie91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 So if I understand this right you'd like to keep the 33" tyre diameter, but have something less aggressive that is definitely a road legal tread. A number of brands make a 285/75R16 tyre, available as an All Terrain as well as a regular Mud Terrain. This size of tyre is still 33" tall, just a little narrower than what you have. There is also the 255/85R15 that is the same height. There's much less choice in this size, and they're all MTs. They are also really a bit narrow for your 10" wide rims. I run this size on a 16x7" rim. These sit nicely inside the wheel arch, so minimal mud or cyclists would be thrown up the side of your tidy looking truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 What looks like beadlocks are what is probably not legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 10 hours ago, Red90 said: What looks like beadlocks are what is probably not legal. Those wheels are effectively split rims. Yes they are beadlocks but the tyre is sat in exactly the same way it would be on a normal rim. The beadlock is a flange in place of the wheel bead. Whilst they won't be e marked they are not beadlocks in the normal sense. The yellow is the outer rim as per normal wheels. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Sure. That is a beadlock. Many beadlocks properly center the bead. That does not make them legal. If you think you are getting pulled over for the tyres, you are just as likely to get pulled over for those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 I've started a diary here incase some of you want to follow and give a newb some advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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