Cornish Rattler Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Hi guys I'm looking at buying a Milwaukee torque battery gun / wrench but not sure which one either a mid torque or a high torque, I already have a Milwaukee 3/8" stubby which I use in my series 2a and don't have a problem with as the stubby will undo every single nut and bolt I can get to on the 2a except for the crank damper bolt ( 200tdi ) but just recently my son has bought a Disco 2 td5 and we have been doing a few jobs on it and the stubby either struggled or failed trying to undo hub nuts and top and bottom ball joint nuts and had to resort to using a strong arm with a tube for leverage or my 3/4" socket set so I quite like the high torque wrench but worried it will be to powerfull and cause more problems or do I go for a mid torque wrench, what would you suggest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Personally for the amount of use you've suggested and the cost of even the skin alone.... I'd be considering other things like a better welding mask or other specialist tools to spend the money on.... that said I still do site mechanics with hand ratchets I only use battery rattle guns if they are supplied, simple deal my hand tools have never let me down lol and they get what the rattle gun can't But if you are going to get one, then the high torque 1, you can dial it back when doing stuff up but its there when you need it... you get a crank bolt that the mid one wont crack your left doing a dodgy that could bend valves, damage starter gear teeth or damage the crank pulley lol or throwing heat at something your don't want to heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 As above, get the strongest one you can, nothing worse than getting out a tool and then finding out it's not up to the job. Especially as you already have a stubby one for lighter work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Is there a difference in size ? Are the more powerful ones larger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, Anderzander said: Is there a difference in size ? Are the more powerful ones larger? Yes, much, which is why I tend to stick with the 170lbft capable 1/2" one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Is the stubby one only available in 12v? I’m perpetually confused with these, as there are so many! I have an impact driver - and have used that, not for cracking big fasteners, but for speeding up assembly and disassembly. So I’d want 18v, to match my existing tools, but there are still tons of them! https://www.sgs-engineering.com/brands/milwaukee/impact-wrenches/filter/18v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Nope: https://uk.milwaukeetool.eu/en-gb/m18-fuel-8243;-compact-impact-wrench-with-friction-ring/m18-fiw2f12/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Actually restricting it to brushless, and 1/2 or 3/8 helps: https://www.sgs-engineering.com/brands/milwaukee/impact-wrenches/filter/brushless/1_2_inch-3_8_inch/18v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 The Hi Torque one is a monster both in capability and in size (relatively speaking). I've yet to meet a bolt on a Land Rover that it's failed to undo (or even struggle to be honest). The closest it came to failing was on some M24 bolts I think they were where it was hammering away and hammering away and eventually the bolt snapped (incidentally one of the few that it has snapped). Did the same on the other side. About half an hour later I realised I'd been tightening them rather than undoing them The downside is that it is physically quite long, so for example won't get in to tighten the radius or trailing arm bolts because there's not enough space to the next gusset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 My brother bought the mid torque m18 version last month - the one that does 790 ish Nm. He used it to strip the front bucket arms off his tractor that has 24mm bolting. It did it with ease. He was impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 2:03 PM, Ed Poore said: The Hi Torque one is a monster both in capability and in size (relatively speaking). I've yet to meet a bolt on a Land Rover that it's failed to undo (or even struggle to be honest). The closest it came to failing was on some M24 bolts I think they were where it was hammering away and hammering away and eventually the bolt snapped (incidentally one of the few that it has snapped). Did the same on the other side. About half an hour later I realised I'd been tightening them rather than undoing them The downside is that it is physically quite long, so for example won't get in to tighten the radius or trailing arm bolts because there's not enough space to the next gusset. Yeah i get that with trailing arms but hopfully should get in woth the stubby if not to tight and or tightening up, snapping stuff is my main worry but i supose i could snap stuff using a 3/4 socket set as well so would have to see 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 So upto now i'm leaning towards an high torque 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I've snapped far less stuff using the hi torque compared to a 1/2" breaker. The crucial thing is the torque is delivered very quickly so serves to break any bonds. If you apply the same torque with a bar you tend to twist and apply it slowly so don't break any rust bonds etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Ed Poore said: I've snapped far less stuff using the hi torque compared to a 1/2" breaker. The crucial thing is the torque is delivered very quickly so serves to break any bonds. If you apply the same torque with a bar you tend to twist and apply it slowly so don't break any rust bonds etc. Aww right i didn't know that as i always thought it would be the other way round 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Ed Poore said: I've snapped far less stuff using the hi torque compared to a 1/2" breaker. The crucial thing is the torque is delivered very quickly so serves to break any bonds. If you apply the same torque with a bar you tend to twist and apply it slowly so don't break any rust bonds etc. Exactly this, only trouble is that using a breaker bar you get a feel for when you are going to snap it off and can stop/apply more heat etc but with the big impact wrenches you don't get that opportunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 I've just treated the garage to the milwaukee high torque wrench, comes with two 5.0 batteries and charger, should be here this week 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 Just arrived and just charging the batteries up 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Cornish Rattler said: Just arrived and just charging the batteries up 😃 He must be undoing every nut and bolt he can find because they should have charged by now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Ed Poore said: He must be undoing every nut and bolt he can find because they should have charged by now Ether that or he has sheared half a dozen bolts and doesn't want to tell lol regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: Ether that or he has sheared half a dozen bolts and doesn't want to tell lol regards Stephen Or it is too big and won't fit where he wants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ed Poore said: He must be undoing every nut and bolt he can find because they should have charged by now Haha i charged them straight away before i went to work 😃 Edited September 7, 2021 by Cornish Rattler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 Got nowt to use it on till Son sinks somemore dosh into his disco 2 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/7/2021 at 8:01 PM, Cornish Rattler said: Got nowt to use it on till Son sinks somemore dosh into his disco 2 😁 When I bought mine I went round trying it on tractor wheel nuts in the yard 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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