Wytze Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, dangerous doug said: No one has got it yet! for clarification these are empty casings anyway, One done! I was going to do the rear today but ran out of time. A friend came over and we started discussing what paint to use, suspension choices and then put the world to rights the castor is set to that of a standard landrover, hopefully that’ll work with the angle I set the portal boxes to as I couldn’t find that number online. Anyone happen to know? And anyone know the pinion angle of the rear diff….. admittedly it shouldn’t matter that much with a 110 but it’s nice to keep everything to how it should be If you can , mock it up under the 110, set what ever angle you feel comfortable with? 27 kg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted June 11, 2023 Author Share Posted June 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Wytze said: If you can , mock it up under the 110, set what ever angle you feel comfortable with? 27 kg? Pm me your details sir, you are spot on! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Awesome! Would be good to post the weight of your finished axle compared to a LR axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wytze Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, dangerous doug said: Pm me your details sir, you are spot on! Ooh, wow.. !! Very cool, that is getting a very nice spot on Olga😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidRS Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 New casing I’d say is 26.5kg 🫣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted June 12, 2023 Author Share Posted June 12, 2023 22 hours ago, DavidRS said: New casing I’d say is 26.5kg 🫣 You were there when they were measured and you still got it wrong😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidRS Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 16 hours ago, dangerous doug said: You were there when they were measured and you still got it wrong😂 I’d put money on it being 26.5 as you corrected my 27 uh oh lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted June 17, 2023 Author Share Posted June 17, 2023 Hot innit! rear is set up, just need to do the tabs and could sling them under the truck to see if I’ve done anything right😂 I do hate These things…..I’m not even sure what you would call them, they take the place of the knuckles so Mercedes could make one axle case for the front and rear. But super ugly and Ofcourse dragged out the rear portal boxes to see what things look like. Diddnt have enough time to remove the drums but you get the idea. Also found a box of unused xcess4x4 axle trusses. Still undecided on it tbh. Both front and rear will have some Sort of truss but I havnt decided on how yet. Top, bottom or front. now I must go clean up as the other half is fuming at how dirty I’ve come home. If you don’t hear from me again I want you all to know it was her!😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wytze Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 9:05 PM, dangerous doug said: Hot innit! rear is set up, just need to do the tabs and could sling them under the truck to see if I’ve done anything right😂 I do hate These things…..I’m not even sure what you would call them, they take the place of the knuckles so Mercedes could make one axle case for the front and rear. But super ugly and Ofcourse dragged out the rear portal boxes to see what things look like. Diddnt have enough time to remove the drums but you get the idea. Also found a box of unused xcess4x4 axle trusses. Still undecided on it tbh. Both front and rear will have some Sort of truss but I havnt decided on how yet. Top, bottom or front. now I must go clean up as the other half is fuming at how dirty I’ve come home. If you don’t hear from me again I want you all to know it was her!😂 two thread's of mog porn on here. 🥰 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 10:55 PM, Wytze said: two thread's of mog porn on here. 🥰 Don’t know about porn, it just exists. stephens on the other hand….. anyway, I was sulking all weekend as I had to work Saturday and look after the other half who is faking back issues on Sunday(don’t tell her I said that or I will die😂) which ment no summer sisters and no time to work on the axles. So I’ve had to do what I can after work Anyway Cut up some metal for the a frame mount. Was in need of some washers/spacers for the inside of the mount(will be clear later) and after tearing the place apart looking for something suitable I had a brainwave…..off to my mate for the correct flavour hole saw and we now have what we need welded it all together and after all the time and effort I made to weld it square and keep it square(it still tweaked abit in the end) I realised that I hadn’t taken the centre measurement properly and had to trim the mount a fair bit. Toasty! And tacked in place So the spacers were necessary to allow full movement of the joint…why this wasn’t built into the joint itsself is beyond me but it’s done. I might chamfer the top of them a bit to make it easier to get it in and out for servicing 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 Next thing I’m a bit undecided about is which way to mount the brackets for the trailing arm mounts, if mounted the conventional way I’ll have to grind out most of the top to allow room for the gigglepin arms which I assume removes a fair bit of their strength but if mounted the other way it’ll just become a plow and fill up with crud. Unsure if it’s more efficient with the loadings one way or other either. they’re getting pretty close though everything is stitched together with a few inches of weld at the moment, until it’s all mocked up and I can be sure that I’ve done everything right I won’t commit to setting the welder to “war crimes” and making everything as permanent as possible……hope my decision to TIG everything won’t come back to haunt me 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 What wheel tyre combination are you using Doug, any idea what your total width with tyres will be ? Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: What wheel tyre combination are you using Doug, any idea what your total width with tyres will be ? Regards Stephen I can’t quite remember numbers on everything but it’s looking like an additional 5” of overall width with a 9” wide wheel and 37x12.50 trep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just reading through this again ultimately, I think you've gone the better route than I did, axles will be lighter and you should have a bit more ground clearance as the rover diff case is smaller than the mog one, cannot wait to see these under your truck, however I would of really liked to see them under the lightweight more......... Keep up the good work Doug Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: Just reading through this again ultimately, I think you've gone the better route than I did, axles will be lighter and you should have a bit more ground clearance as the rover diff case is smaller than the mog one, cannot wait to see these under your truck, however I would of really liked to see them under the lightweight more......... Keep up the good work Doug Regards Stephen Stephen, it’s not better. Just different. Yes, they might be slightly lighter but yours will be stronger and use a lot of factory parts and easier to repair(if you need to repair). Everything is a compromise. We shall see in the end as we’re aiming for summer sister next year so if you’re there we’ll get an apples to oranges comparison and I honestly don’t think there will be much in it. I have another set of axle cases that would be easier to narrow if you fancy starting over….just saying😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, dangerous doug said: I have another set of axle cases that would be easier to narrow if you fancy starting over….just saying😂 Haha, would be quicker if I did it again, kinda half know what I'm doing now lol Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, dangerous doug said: We shall see in the end as we’re aiming for summer sister next year Excellent news, see you there then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, FridgeFreezer said: Excellent news, see you there then! Will the 109 portal bus be there? That would be a hell of a shoot out😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/30/2023 at 9:23 PM, dangerous doug said: Will the 109 portal bus be there? That would be a hell of a shoot out😂 I really hope so, I'm fed up with it being stuck in the garage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Do you need us to start bullying you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dangerous doug Posted July 6, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2023 Been quiet on the forum for the past few days so I’ll chip in with what I have rear axle is nearly done and dare I say it….the front is all tacked together and ready to be dry fitted! Rear mounts proved a little tricky as I dont have much in the way of reference for them and beeping them on the same plain was also a pain so I deployed the super stud: 1m long and 8 nuts kept everything square and gave me a reference point between them making everything a lot easier. Have 8.5” of separation between the top and bottom links Also had a rummage in the tig consumables box as I’ve been looking at going up a tungsten size for a while. Found the bits I needed and gave it a try fast run at 210A Got some spring seats at billing. Not sure about these, I like the factory look but they don’t sit quite high enough for a spring seat so will require a spacer of the seat modding….. the rear seats just won’t fit, there is no way so I’m thinking about welding some box to the bottom of the seat and then welding said box straight to the axle. I know I’ve seen this done somewhere but not very well…..possibly one of straight forward supplies efforts (awaiting @FridgeFreezer to chime in on that as he hates them more than me😂) Also got myself some new TREs with associated taps so the spindley lr TREs can go back in the draw where they belong. Problem is they are both right hand thread so they won’t have the adjustment they would normally have. Mercedes decided to swage one joint on their track rods and I’m not sure how they adjusted them. Let me know your thoughts because I have no idea what I’m doing😂 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurbie Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, dangerous doug said: Problem is they are both right hand thread so they won’t have the adjustment they would normally have. Mercedes decided to swage one joint on their track rods and I’m not sure how they adjusted them. sometimes when a swaged balljoint is used , the other side has a sleeve in between the track rod and the joint , the sleeve has internal (for the joint to fit) and external threads (for the sleeve to fit in the track rod) , so you can adjust the trackrod on one side . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 I made my own spring seats out of 3" box as I needed the height for the same reasons you do Regards Stephen Edit : page 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, hurbie said: sometimes when a swaged balljoint is used , the other side has a sleeve in between the track rod and the joint , the sleeve has internal (for the joint to fit) and external threads (for the sleeve to fit in the track rod) , so you can adjust the trackrod on one side . This is what I was thinking, but I’ve tidied up and really could t be bothered to dig the track rod out again😂 we’re talking a couple of degrees at the end of the day and I don’t think it’ll matter much on something like this 9 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: I made my own spring seats out of 3" box as I needed the height for the same reasons you do Regards Stephen Edit : page 4 Oh I know, the photos are all saved on the camera roll for reference because I have little signal at the workshop 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 12 hours ago, hurbie said: sometimes when a swaged balljoint is used , the other side has a sleeve in between the track rod and the joint , the sleeve has internal (for the joint to fit) and external threads (for the sleeve to fit in the track rod) , so you can adjust the trackrod on one side . D2 and P38 I think are like this, it's not a bad setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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