Mutley Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 This is for a 300Tdi 90 year 1995 It's looking like I need a NEW Clutch!?!..... So which one is the BEST to get and what is the part number and where to get it from please???? Thought I read along time ago the 300Tdi Clutch was heavy duty type because of the need to play/ride the Clutch at times, mainly off road at a guess??? Any help, suggestions greatly appreciated! Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy996 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 My last new clutch was LUK from Parkers, https://www.thepartspeople.co.uk/phone/branches.html, 1989 LR110CSW 200Tdi It's still working for the new owner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 Cheers for the reply, was looking at the VALEO HD set up...UQB000130 Friction Plate...URB100760 Pressure Cover Not sure on part numbers for the heavy duty Release Bearing and part number for heavy duty fork??? Does ALL this come as a VALEO HD kit if so where at??? Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 OK quick update, just spoke to a Very helpful guy at Paddock Spares by the name of Ben.... He informs me they do a VALEO HD Kit comprising of Friction Plate, Pressure Cover and Release Bearing....Part No. DA5551G Then a Heavy Duty Fork kit....Part No. FTC2957HD kit Does all this sound about right??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy996 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Yes, the heavy duty fork should have the wear plate already welded on to resit it punching through. The HD kit seems to be listed by all the usual suppliers at various prices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_H Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 everything, but never Britpart HD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Have used the Valeo “130/HD” clutch for years on my Tdi and it has always worked well. I got the last one from Ashcrofts I think, they do a kit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 My 5.2V8 Destroyed clutches for a past time, ok, big BHP + Torque, but proves quality vs cheap - even tried a paddle plate clutch - good - but it was horrible on road... after trying near everything ended up with an LOF unit. Buy that if you really want to not worry about doing the job again for a long time Nige 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 Ok guys thanks for the input!... Will have a look at the LOF unit and see what that comes in at??? @Sigi_H any recommendations for HD Fork kits then as Paddock only does Britpart??? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Valeo and Borg&Beck are the two OEM suppliers. Valero is what used to be in the Britpart kit a decade ago, but I don’t know what is in there now. Britannica Restorations do a clutch fork pivot bush kit that replicates what the SIIIs had and solves the wear through the fork of a standard fork and the wear of the pivot with the “HD” forks with the welded plate reinforcement. While you have the clutch out, it’s worth replacing the spigot bush too. It really ought to be part of the kit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 (edited) @Snagger not seen any mention of Borg & Beck in my search and as for LOF!?! The price kills that idea! If Valeo lasts half as long as the original, it will see me out!?!....The HD Fork kit contains what is shown in the photo, I guess the Brass Ring is the Spigot Bush you mentioned? While it's all coming out I have a leaking CRANK SEAL that might as well be done, any advice or tips on which bits to get or not get???..... Going with Corteco Seals as always but what about the rear seal LUF100430 DOES this need to be a GENUINE part or will the Britpart OE suffice??? Any other bits for this task??? Edited January 12 by Mutley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Valeo are good. Had a disaster with a borg and beck where the centre of the friction plate fell apart, I wasnt impressed. Never seen the need to spend more than valeo cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, Mutley said: @Snagger not seen any mention of Borg & Beck in my search and as for LOF!?! The price kills that idea! If Valeo lasts half as long as the original, it will see me out!?!....The HD Fork kit contains what is shown in the photo, I guess the Brass Ring is the Spigot Bush you mentioned? While it's all coming out I have a leaking CRANK SEAL that might as well be done, any advice or tips on which bits to get or not get???..... Going with Corteco Seals as always but what about the rear seal LUF100430 DOES this need to be a GENUINE part or will the Britpart OE suffice??? Any other bits for this task??? Tbh, if the rear seal isnt leaking, I would leave it. Do you mean front or rear crank seal is leaking ? If rear, genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 @reb78 yeah the rear seal's been leaking for some time now, so thought I'd make the most of it if whilst the clutch is being done. As for the rear seal, just read on another thread someone advising to use the one from TURNER ENGINEERING....Which looks and sounds like a quality item for similar money to genuine!?! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_H Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) In my eyes the real question about chlutches is the quality of the plate spring. I believe the linings of all brands are ok. The spring is responsible for the amount of pressure in the clutch. I almost always heard about damaged springs, but never from a worn out lining. I had a bad spring in a Britpart HD after 80000 km. After that I found in the Internet, that this problem seems to be quite common. They become lame and it can be real quick. Edited January 13 by Sigi_H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I have fitted several Britpart HD clutches behind standard and tuned TDi's including my own wich outlasted gearboxes, shafts and cvs with lots of trialing and towing. Im not saying they are the best you can buy but I have no issues with using them based on my experience. IIRC they were about £90 for the kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 13 hours ago, Mutley said: @Snagger not seen any mention of Borg & Beck in my search and as for LOF!?! The price kills that idea! If Valeo lasts half as long as the original, it will see me out!?!....The HD Fork kit contains what is shown in the photo, I guess the Brass Ring is the Spigot Bush you mentioned? While it's all coming out I have a leaking CRANK SEAL that might as well be done, any advice or tips on which bits to get or not get???..... Going with Corteco Seals as always but what about the rear seal LUF100430 DOES this need to be a GENUINE part or will the Britpart OE suffice??? Any other bits for this task??? That kit will be fine, the friction plate at least is OEM and that is the spigot bush for the crank. As others said, I’d leave the crank seal unless it’s leaking as new aftermarket are usually worse than old original. But if you need a new one, go to Turner Eng, who are selling OEM seals for 2.8TGVs, which had a reinforced lower edge to eliminate the leaks from the original LR seal metal section flexing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmmv Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Mike at Britannia Restoration has a video on the rear seal. He reckons the seal itself doesn't leak, it's from the bottom of the carrier.If you use the Turner ones you may need to drill and tap a couple of small new holes, but probably worth the effort to avoid leaks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 1/12/2024 at 6:48 PM, Mutley said: Ok guys thanks for the input!... Will have a look at the LOF unit and see what that comes in at??? @Sigi_H any recommendations for HD Fork kits then as Paddock only does Britpart??? Andy LOF again - I make them with a MC700 Domex plate over the front area ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Borg and Beck are not what the once were. They no longer supply the OE market. Now it it just a brand name trading on a glorious past. Probably made in a country in the easterly direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 @fmmv yes I've seen the Mike's videos, always find them informative! Just noticed from Turners Web image of LUF100430 Seal that there's x2 extra holes at the bottom of the casing!?! As there are NO bolts for these on the 300Tdi.... is it as well to fill these with Sikaflex or Gasket Sealant or something??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 You can fit it with RTV and the original bolts, just like the original seal. This is the 2.8 seal, and I understand the bottom edge is stiffer than the original anyway, but drilling and tapping for the two extra bolts would be worthwhile if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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