wow300 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Mach 5's are about to go down in price by 50% Word has it that they never got round to getting the BSI standards safety kite mark... which means that now they are not road legal and invalidate insurance if you use them on the road, Anyone else know anything about this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 they should be illegal to sell then in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suggs Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Mach 5's are about to go down in price by 50%Word has it that they never got round to getting the BSI standards safety kite mark... which means that now they are not road legal and invalidate insurance if you use them on the road, Anyone else know anything about this ? were did you here that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow300 Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 were did you here that? From a mate that works in a landrover parts supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 If they are suddenly illegal who is going to buy them............... at any discount ? Ring D4x4 and ask, somehow I feel that after a short silence simon or liz will laugh................... Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Not me they are so last century Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow300 Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 Anyone that has them could go out and check, see if can find a kite mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 to be fair though 98% of vehicles on this forum aren't road legal anyway so having dodgy wheels isn't going to make a lot of difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I have a set of Modulars , They aint got no kite mark . And as for the Mach 5`s I dont think they will have any issues with safety , They are stronger than any other wheel I have owned . And to suggest that they will be reduced by 50% is not exactly acurate , I cant see D44 selling them off cheap , They have had enough problems in the past getting hold of them ,so I cant see them selling them off any cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 they should be illegal to sell then in the UK Surely not illegal to sell, but illegal to use on the public highway? you could use them on private sites, like my own personal salisbury plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 to be fair though 98% of vehicles on this forum aren't road legal anyway so having dodgy wheels isn't going to make a lot of difference! It would be more like it illegal to use them and they can still sell them. Same ------- diffrant S*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Do kite marks still exist? I thought they has been replaced by 'E' marking. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 to be fair though 98% of vehicles on this forum aren't road legal anyway so having dodgy wheels isn't going to make a lot of difference! I dispute that figure. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I cant see D44 selling them off cheap , They have had enough problems in the past getting hold of them ,so I cant see them selling them off any cheaper. I think it's getting a bit confused here, I assume we are talking about the 'Mach 5' look alikes not Mach 5 steels that Devon 4x4 now source and sell. As far as I know Devon 4x4 don't sell these alloys. When these alloys were introduced they made a big thing about them being German TUV approved. If that's still the case they are more than capable of meeting any European requirements. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I expect they'll soon be sold by a reputable London company with a "scorp" safety marking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 To confirm SteveG's point when I last looked my Mach 5's were steel not alloy so will someone please clarify what this post is all about. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I dispute that figure.Chris So do I bluddy cheek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I dispute that figure.Chris Well for starters discolating surpension is illegal on the roads in the UK So that makes most of our trucks illegal And belive me if you got in an accident and the police look at our trucks they would have a bloody feild day . I was told by a copper who does inspections after acceidents that he can find illegal stuff on a 6 month old focus . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 discolating surpension is illegal on the roads in the UK Where does it say that Ali? I have heard it before but never spoken to anyone who could point me at chapter and verse in the C+U regs. Genuinely interested to know. Either way, I was disputing the figure, not that some peoples Landrovers are illegal to use on UK roads. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Where does it say that Ali? I have heard it before but never spoken to anyone who could point me at chapter and verse in the C+U regs. Genuinely interested to know.Either way, I was disputing the figure, not that some peoples Landrovers are illegal to use on UK roads. Chris When i was going to import my challenge truck into Aus i found out that the Surpension can't not dislocate on a raod car/truck Was surprised at this untill somone pointed out that there was the same law in the uk, which was news to me as i had dislocation cones on m truck and had , had them for years. I did have the verse and chapter but was nearly 3 years ago now . I will look for it and get back to you It is in the rules and regs for SVA test , new car tests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Either way, I was disputing the figure, not that some peoples Landrovers are illegal to use on UK roads.Chris 98% of all statistic’s are made up on the spot I've heard it from more than one sorce but can't be bothered to look it up. And our fav retailer is a very big seller of them well was pushing them at all the shows this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Maybe I'm missing something here, but surely all dislocations do is make sure the spring relocates after it has been unseated. They don't actually make the spring dislocate or even increase the chance of it doing so. I realise that dislocation cones are often fitted in conjunction with other suspension mods, but I think you can dislocate standard Land Rover suspension anyway if you try hard enough? Does this mean all older Land Rovers are illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Maybe I'm missing something here, but surely all dislocations do is make sure the spring relocates after it has been unseated. They don't actually make the spring dislocate or even increase the chance of it doing so. I realise that dislocation cones are often fitted in conjunction with other suspension mods, but I think you can dislocate standard Land Rover suspension anyway if you try hard enough? Does this mean all older Land Rovers are illegal? off topic but go and find a completely stock LR in any show room and show me how you can make the spring come out of there restraining seat. you will not find any coil sprung lr that from the factory that a spring can leave its seat on the chassie or axle. I have not seen it witen down in law I just notice that if articulation is so important why LR have never jumped on that band wagon. they only come out when poeple start to play about with the shocks etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 you will not find any coil sprung lr that from the factory that a spring can leave its seat on the chassie or axle.... they only come out when poeple start to play about with the shocks etc. etc. Okay, I'm wrong then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Agreed Jules, but the upper part of the spring is not secured. It follows that if you had check chains for road use any dislocation system would operate in the same manner as standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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