outdoor_ian Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Evening I've just come in from the garage and this film tint is driving me crazy trying to do the back windows and side sliding windows on my 90 in an attempt to stop the thieving so & so's from seeing in so easily and steeling my stuff. I'm off to Billing on friday to get some internal grills to add to the security as well. Whats the secret? I,m using water and soap on the window and film and there's bubbles all over it. Are there different qualities of the film? Any suggestions would be helpfull (other than get a tinitng company to do it) Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobson Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 i think they must use witchcraft or something at tinting places, i've tried myself for hours on several occasions, had friends and even a body panel specialist try to get it right, all failed! i'd take it to a proper place, i've never seen anyone get it as good doing it at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy V8 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 just take your time and work from the middle outwards.it took me about 2hrs to do my Volvo V70.it was the first time i'd done it as well and it turned out pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denviks Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 i got a company to do mine as i know how much fun it can be.... i just dont have tha patiants to do it to be honest. i think the secret was loads and loads of water and soap....more than you would would consider enough ........then more than that.......then take your time scraping it all out.... if you have the odd bit that wont seem to stick , park it in the sun and let it heat up a little... then try srapping it back again and again here is a pic of the amount of water used....there is more than it looks from the center out just take your time and use lots and lots of water so the film floats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I put soapy water in a pump-spray bottle (think it was an old windowline bottle) and soaked the window before putting the film on it. You literally want water running off the window at the point you stick the film to it. then just work from the middle outwards in all dirrections, being carefull not to stretch the film.. You will keep spotting bubbles but as they appear, just work them out to the edges. I'd do it again if I had another Landrover, but wouldn't atempt it on a modern car with lots of curved glass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks90 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 as above - literally soak the whole place in very soapy water. Not done a car window yet, but we recently put some anti shatter transparent film on a full length mirror (got a 2 year old and didnt fancy her being cut to shreds if she whacked it with something) and we got no bubbles at all in it. And thats a full 6ft mirror! water was literally pouring off the glass when we put the sheet on and it 'floated' on the surface. Before we put the sheet on, we also sprayed the sheet with a pump spray so both surfaces were wet. this made it very easy to get the bubbles out, as there was no adhesion between the glass and the sheet initially and i used a simple plastic thin roller (used for wallpapering to press the edges) and a credit card and i 'squeezed' out the fluid from one end to the other. easy-peasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM_110 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I took rear/rear side/ sliding side windows out to make it easier, and did the panes seperately on a table. Loads of water, with a smidge of soap. Make sure there's no daust or dog hairs about too, my side windows have a souvenir from my dog here and there, but no bubbles. I also tried doing the alpines, but it was a total disaster, compound curves are beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave K Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 EveningI've just come in from the garage and this film tint is driving me crazy trying to do the back windows and side sliding windows on my 90 in an attempt to stop the thieving so & so's from seeing in so easily and steeling my stuff. I'm off to Billing on friday to get some internal grills to add to the security as well. Whats the secret? I,m using water and soap on the window and film and there's bubbles all over it. Are there different qualities of the film? Any suggestions would be helpfull (other than get a tinitng company to do it) Cheers Patience & a steady hand! It takes time, & I've never yet managed to get a completely crease free window! Plenty of soapy water, start at one corner & work outwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoor_ian Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 I think its remove the windows time with a gallon of water and a bottle of fairey (other washing up liquids are available) Is some film better or thicker than others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megansfolly Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 bought mine off the bay just take your time mine split in two places but i think i got away with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJN Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I did see a progrom on discovery channel where they showed how to do it. I was surprised that the first thing they did was clean the outside of the windows and cut the tint out on the outside to make sure the size was correct. Then then clean and dried the inside and then applied the very very soapy water and the tint film. After this it was out with the flat scraper to get the soap out from underneath and in with a hair dryer to make the film stick totally to the glass. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santalars Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yop, very soapy water, loads of it, absolutely clean and dust free glass and patience will do an acceptable job. Done it a couple of times myself on different cars and a perfect job does require experience. Not my type of occasional experience. As this is a question of applying the correct technique under various circumstances I think that you only can do a perfect job after you have exercised it a coule of hundred times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoor_ian Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 I found a few clips on youtube which have helped. I've got the back windows done now after taking them out, lots of water and fairey seems to work. Having dogs and doing window tinting dont seem to go together even when you shut them out. I have a few hairs in the back ones just for good measure.!!!!! Side ones to go now, taking them out is going to be loads of drilling but hey ho. I had to take one out to put in a new bit of glass. U know its going to leak when it goes back even if I do use a stack of mastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Two-Jacks Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I found a few clips on youtube which have helped.I've got the back windows done now after taking them out, lots of water and fairey seems to work. Having dogs and doing window tinting dont seem to go together even when you shut them out. I have a few hairs in the back ones just for good measure.!!!!! Side ones to go now, taking them out is going to be loads of drilling but hey ho. I had to take one out to put in a new bit of glass. U know its going to leak when it goes back even if I do use a stack of mastic. How about net curtains instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Two-Jacks Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I fitted some to a vehicle once and used loads of soap and lots and lots of water and a squeegy cut out of the side panel of a 5ltr plastic container with any corners radiused just in case but it was a nightmare as it took ages for the interior to dry out....Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I've recently done a load of double glazed units for both my workshop and a friend's recording studio. The trick was to get the glass really clean and then scrape it with a razor blade and soapy water to get all the bits off. My glazing was removed, as the beading was inside, and I did everything in the bath with a shower head streaming water and soapy water in the bath with the plug in. My firend's was done in situ as his windows were beaded on the outside and the galzing was glued to the frames. The method I used was to peal back one edge of the backing while keeping the film well soaked with soapy water from a plant sprayer and then to crease the backing leaving a couple of inches of film exposed. I then stuck the film to the top edge of the very soapy wet glass and squeegeed it flat and bubble free making sure it was in position. I then slowly pulled the backing downwards a couple of inches at a time and kept spraying the film and squeegeeing. If I got a bubble or crease I would carefully lift the film, before it is squeegeed as that makes it stick fast, and carefully reposition the film. Finally I would squeegee out any bubbles that have escaped my notice using a lot of pressure on the tip of the squeegee blade pushing it to the nearest edge. Any that absolutely refused to move were usually only 1-2mm across adn so I pricked them and squeegeed them away. I had the added complication that I was using two layers of 5% film so that the glazing is really dark and the second layer doesn't slip so well on the first layer of film. If you can remove the glass and put it in the bath, on a towel, then it is much easier to keep wet enough to do a good job. With curved glass you can stretch the film a little with a hair dryer to warm it but it is more then a little tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoor_ian Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 I dont think I'm quite ready for curved glass, flat bits are tricky enough for now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoor_ian Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 Half way through a side window and I run out of tint. What a fiasco this is turning out to be. Off to get some more today, I guess its still working out cheaper than paying a company to do it. A trick I have picked up is to use a hard card / spreader with a bit of kitchen roll over it. Ease's out the bubbles with less chance of scratching the film or digging into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoor_ian Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Hi All windows finished now, I will add a picture when i figure out how. The only issue I have now is that the first 2 windows I did were the small rear ones and they look pants to how I managed to get the others to come out. I could be going round in circles here but you kno where Im going now. The dilema is do I do those 2 again so they look as good as the others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gonna think about it over lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 HiAll windows finished now, I will add a picture when i figure out how. http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=6786 all you need to know about adding photo's into replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozza35 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 A lad came to get a door off me and he had done his windows on his 110 and it was an excellent job .He got the film from someone on ebay and it came with ALL the tools and detailed instructions and enough to do a couple of 110's i will see if i can find the link he sent me here it is http://www.tintfilm.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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