Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 So my mate has this ninety with a 8274 and a XP motor. We wanted more pulling power and fell in love the adaptor from flaminfabrication in AUS. But decided, why not make it ourselves? And so we did. We made it as short as possible to avoid it looking too silly. Well not much else to say, check out the pictures and hit me with if you have any questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 machining some "tracks" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Final assembly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 The bracket for the second motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 And then came time to add some more power to the twin redtop optimas A 200Amp alternator from a Mercedes Vito came into play and a bit of ally welding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 And the final pic from the alternator bracket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Hi, Interesting have been kind of toying doing this, the adapter to join the motors together is simple enough... I see you have milled in some key ways into the end of motor one, so i guess you turned down the splines on motor two and then added some key ways there. real good job how does it run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Very impressed with that, but the inevitable question is how well does it work ? the winch that is. The other question is how stable are the motors considering its a relatively small thread that its all hanging on ? But still looks like a real sound idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 It works really well, the spooling speed when unloaded has dropped do to more friction I suppose. But the grunt in the winch is enormous! We made a test going up a 35 degree slope with no wheel asistance and kept a speed of 10m/s. And the ninety weighs in just over the 2 tonne mark. So that is quite good. I have video of testing it in some sticky mud, that I will put on youtube and link to later on. I'm not sure I understand you're question regarding stability of the engine mounts though. The second engine is bolted to the back of the first and kept safely in place by another bracket (the one in the last picture) And yes Moose whe chopped off the splines on the second motor to keep the length of it all to an absolute minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 As promised a video. First off he tries without wheel assitance with the car stuck in the mud. Second try he uses the wheels aswell. Follow the link: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 It works really well, the spooling speed when unloaded has dropped do to more friction I suppose. But the grunt in the winch is enormous! We made a test going up a 35 degree slope with no wheel asistance and kept a speed of 10m/s. And the ninety weighs in just over the 2 tonne mark. So that is quite good. I have video of testing it in some sticky mud, that I will put on youtube and link to later on. I'm not sure I understand you're question regarding stability of the engine mounts though. The second engine is bolted to the back of the first and kept safely in place by another bracket (the one in the last picture) And yes Moose whe chopped off the splines on the second motor to keep the length of it all to an absolute minimum. Erm 10m/s going up 35degree does not sound right compared to the video on youtube Regards Ole Ps 10m/s = 36km/hour pretty fast for a winch and in this case electric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Erm 10m/s going up 35degree does not sound right compared to the video on youtube Regards Ole Ps 10m/s = 36km/hour pretty fast for a winch and in this case electric Haha Ole ofcourse you're right I mean't to say 10m/minute ofcourse it's not a rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 would love to see two lots of this on a gigglepin housing 4, 24 volted motors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 would love to see two lots of this on a gigglepin housing 4, 24 volted motors! I'm sure I have seen this somewhere, just can't find it on google atm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
søderberg Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hallo Søren! Do you have some drawings laying around? This is really interesting, if you would share drawings with me I would be real happy. Med vennlig hilsen Jonas Søderberg Norge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee_arthur Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm sure I have seen this somewhere, just can't find it on google atm... I cant remember seeing pictures but there was word of someone tuther side of the world (aussie land) doing it. Dont know if it was 24v right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Yeah I'seen a quad motor setup somewhere aswell, that is mean! But I don't think the rest of the winch will be up to it.. This is a video that greatly inspired us: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Would you make another for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Haha Ole ofcourse you're right I mean't to say 10m/minute ofcourse it's not a rocket Hi Søren That is just so sloooowwwwwww , 40m/minute is what we have in first gear on the Koenig, havnt been in 2 yet and since it is mechanical it works all day long if the engine runs Kind regards Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Very neat - give yourself a gold star for the machining! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Thanks Si. This weekend we did a back to back challenge between a standard 8274 with 4,5HP motor and our twin XP motored 8274. We decided to go uphill with no wheel assistance, eventually the standard 8274 gave up do to overheaded motor. The twinmotored winch was barely warm to touch. See the result here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Nice result but you want to get your self an uprated mainshaft as that won't last long with that much power. Also consider spending some time ensuring the gears all mesh nicely as standard 8274 gearboxes can be really sloppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 yes Will I totally agree on the gearmesh issue, we had to fit a new tophousing because the needle-rollerbearing in the gear inside the housing was knackered. This had caused it to grind into the housing, and brilliantly you can't get EITHER of the parts from Warn! You have to buy the complete tophousing assembly. Tsk tsk.. But anyways we noticed a serious amount of sideways movement in the gear, and because there where no shim fitted, the gear would actually be running up against the housing and again cause a grinding. With this fixed it was much better. So I can only imagine what the rest of the gearbox is like. Regarding the mainshaft, it is definetly in the cards, but apparently even those break, a friend of mine running two Bow motors on gigglepin housing just broke his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Well, we couldn't stop here could we? We've now made it the early Gigglepin way and are now looking to fit 4 motors instead. And ofcourse we are also looking at gearing it now, even with just two motors we had plenty of power for a higher gearing. So thats next on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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