Hybrid_From_Hell Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Ok Its the rear axle on my 90, which is a disk braked Metric RR unit I have a selection of "Issues" I want to resolve, due to the fact I do a lot of marshalling and have to "Go Fetch" people who get themselves into mad situations - I have to then drive into / through stuff I'd rather maybe not chose to go into - then sees a selction of damage to the rear axle unit Not that long ago - saw me reversing down a huge incline then slide the last 18 yds belting a rock, to execute a nasty recovery - as a result of going in and coming out - a massively twisted and bent the QT Guard, bending and impacting so hard as to not just dent the diff pan but split it and even better this was a BRAND NEW Genuine casing bought about 1 yr ago so I have to fix it also suffer from Undergrowth that wraps itself around brake lines, yanking them off And yanking T pieces off And yanking ARB hoses off and sqwishing and flattening brake pipes Etc Etc Etc My cunning plan is : Do away with the need for a diff guard, and thus better ground cleance and less to hook up (have a plan) Modify the brake pipes so they end say 6 inches inboard of the casing and have flexy braided hoses joined to allow claiper easy off in the field / repairs etc Weld up the casing to offer protection to the brake pipes, hoses and T piece etc My request is simple, anyone got good pics of the bar protectors as others have done this, I have something in mind but would like ideas pics links of similar set ups Any other ideas suggestions to add to the above And yes whatever I do I will post up in thread later whn done Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Looks like your in need of some portals there HFH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Any other ideas suggestions to add to the above And yes whatever I do I will post up in thread later whn done Nige Wrapping several layers of kevlar under and around the diff housing and vacuum bagging it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I tell you what I have done: Nothing. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road Toad Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Should have gone to Spec savers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_manuel Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 the easyest way to avoid damage to the above in the situation you were in is very easy. use your vocal chords and some good old fashion p***takin drvie you truck fairly close to the stuck one roll down the window tell them to watch where they are going and to buy a good winch on a more helpfull notecould you not spot weld some small angle across the brake lines seen it done a few times you shouldnt need a lot of welds if you place so most impacts are haed on then if it does ever need to be removed just grind the tacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks90 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 you could weld on a 1" diameter tube to the top of the axle casing from the pumpkin to the stub and run the flexi hose down that? Then weld on a 1/4" thick sewer cap in place of the diff pan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Somebody (Tomcat maybe?) makes some rather trendy strengthened axle casings. Have seen one on a mates racer (now sold - so can get pics) that looked rather trendy - it had an octagonal profile & looked bloody strong. Wouldn't help with protecting brake / arb pipes tho, but the idea of an upside down bit of angle welded onto the top of the tube ô sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore101 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 http://www.bellautoservices.co.uk/pdf/TDV6-Defender-Build-25-07-09.pdf page 96 to 100 show a pretty neat way of protecting brake lines, not sure if its a custom axle or bought but does look pretty strong. link taken from this thread http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=44791&st=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Gigglepin / sewer cap / gas bottle diff pan. "Modify" a QT diff guard to retain the slider bit under the propshaft. Flexi hose from the chassis bracket (so put the T piece there) down the A Frame and along the axle cable tied to your steel protector of choice (angle / tube / bar.) Job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Should have gone to Spec savers Eh ? wot ? Who said that ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Couldn't you be more careful about how you drive ? get yourself a bitch to guide you down if necessary ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heath robinson Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Have you squinted in the general direction of Devon's 110 trayback? Perhaps perusing this bit might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Nige, get yourself one of the Gigglepin HD pans (which look suspiciously like they were made by Paul/Nick ) and then put a truss over the back face of the axle - this will massively add to the strength of the axle casing. You can then run the brake lines over the top face of the truss so they'll be seriously well protected too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Nige, get yourself one of the Gigglepin HD pans (which look suspiciously like they were made by Paul/Nick ) and then put a truss over the back face of the axle - this will massively add to the strength of the axle casing. You can then run the brake lines over the top face of the truss so they'll be seriously well protected too. I had considered one of those, but (this is where I get shot down in flames ) In my mind (yes and odd place at times ) I seem to have a thought around pinion lubrication. This is simply that the rear casing covering the diff is that shape for a reason - that reason is to assist the oil picked via the Crown wheel to guide the oil - and stop it moving off "Sideways" so that it helps lubrication of the Pinion, thus, a simple "Flat Bowl" without the CW buldge will significantly reduce the efficency of pinion lubrication ? Or am I Barking ? also : and then put a truss over the back face of the axle - this will massively add to the strength of the axle casing. You can then run the brake lines over the top face of the truss so they'll be seriously well protected too. Got anty pics etc as I can't quite visualize what your suggesting ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hybrid_From_Hell Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 Eeeeeermmmm "F" Is that the LR Equivalent of a pinic table rear spolier on a Corsa ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Surely you're unlikely to bend a LR axle in that axis anyway, and you're adding plenty of unsprung weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Or am I Barking ? Doesn't even know his own name... Poor guy Is it the military Wolves that have an extra tube inside the axle tubes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore101 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 does that not just add a massive flat surface to get dented and then caught up on rocks once the axles slid over them? definetely gives somewhere to sit brake lines on to protect them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Sorry to say chaps that it adds a lot more strength per weight than tubing the inside of the axle. It doesn't add much weight if you design it right and use the correct material - there is no need to use more than 3mm. The photo isn't the prettiest or best executed but it gives the idea. You can bend a stock Rover axle casing by literaly looking at it especially if you have a reasonable amount of power, big(ish) tyres, high offset wheels and a powerful winch to pull you over stuff (step forward Mr Barker ). Trusses on the top (or bottom) of the axle tend to be of more use if you're jumping the car.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 3 mm No good for Nige then, Will, he only does 10 mm and above Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 No good for Nige then, Will, he only does 10 mm and above Mo Good point, well made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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