recommendations for brake pads

[pedro]

Having spent an arm and a leg on EBC green stuff pads, with vented and grooved discs (front) I have have noticed the brakes are putting it mildly, alot worse. Should i just change pads to "normal" ones? I have heard the EBC green stuff only really work at high temps effectively and having vented and grooved discs keeps temp down hence never getting up to temperature, any thoughts?

[fozsug]

Did you bed them in? As per previous post on here try THIS

[pedro]

Will try, the brakes have been on for a while but dont use car that often.

[landmannnn]

Green stuff need a bit more heat than normal pads but not to the point where it makes the braking really poor in normal driving.

If you drive like Miss Daisy then drop some normal ones in.

[western]

I'd stick with Mintex or Ferodo pads, don't need any fancy brake pads in a standard 90 or 110.

[Les Henson]

Green pads are very good in my opinion, but they do tend to wear a bit quicker than normal resin pads.

Les.

[landy andy.]

Would not use Mintex ones, justed fitted a set to mine. Had a few scares already. Complete poo, was running TWR pads (Terrafirma) and they were much much better.

Andy

[Retroanaconda]

I have Mintex pads, work very well for me

Remember to bed them in, all pads/discs need that

[landroversforever]

I'm sure it was Mintex ones I used on the front of mine. They are great . along with the new disks, The tyres will let go long before the brakes .

[Mr Nick]

I run EBC Grooved Dotted Discs front and rear on my 90 with EBC Heavy Duty Black Pads. Just change to Black and you will Smile

[Range Rover Blues]

I've used mintex quite happily, then again OEM parts are always good.

I use Green stuff but agree they wear out quick, I wouldn't mind if in doing so they kept the rear disks clean but alas they do not. Green stuff should work form cold, it's red stuff that are useless 'till they're smoking.

Not used black stuff, tell us more about them.

[Mr Nick]

Mintex are good i do agree but i personaly found they fade quickly when the moment of madness happens !!!! or should i say when your in a rush ECB Vented/Grooved/Dotted FRONT. Grooved Dotted REAR with a bit of the Black EBC Stuff works very well.

[cackshifter]

I've found the conditioning of green stuff as per Mr Fozsug's post (and as recommended by EBC) makes quite a difference. The only trouble is finding enough road to do it.

Nigel

[Henry Webster]

My experience with GreenStuff is that they are fantastic, but do need proper bedding in.

For most purposes, even fairly hard road driving, I find that OEM spec pads are difficult to beat, though!

[Aragorn]

In car circles greenstuff has a pretty bad reputation, often giving poor performance even compared with the OEM compounds supplied by the manufacturer. Unforutnately most of the better car compounds arent available for the landrover calipers, although motorsportworld do list EBC Yellowstuff, which does seem to have a better reputation.

I run standard "redbox" mintex pads on the A4, not really decided what to do for the defender yet. Part of me fancies some big shiney porsche calipers or similar, but i'm going to start with OEM setup and go from there.

[Mr Nick]

Just to add, Your Brakes are only as good as your tyre adhesion.

[reb78]

In car circles greenstuff has a pretty bad reputation, often giving poor performance even compared with the OEM compounds supplied by the manufacturer. Unforutnately most of the better car compounds arent available for the landrover calipers, although motorsportworld do list EBC Yellowstuff, which does seem to have a better reputation.

I've heard this a lot. They dont rate the greenstuff pads well at all for many sportier cars. OEM pads on both my BMW and 110 and have no problems with them at all and both vehicles get driven in a spirited fashion from time to time! Follow the 'zeckheusen racing bedding in technique' linked to above - it works well.

[Aragorn]

yep, it should also be noted that the bedding in procedure above can be done at any time. If your brakes have been on there for a year and are starting to feel a bit carp, give them a thrashing as per that link and you'll find they come back to life. Over time the pads get glazed if they're not being worked hard, and the performance drops off. Performing the bedding procedure will burn off the mank getting you back to decent fresh material.

[pedro]

ok, will give em a damn gd go. The 110 regularly tows a 2ton sawmill and it got to the point where on a slope i had to stand on the brakes!

Have changed the brake servo unit and renewed the brake lines (and bleed/refreshed fluid) and braking appears much better already, will try and give the pads "what for tomorrow"!

[reb78]

Just make sure you have somewhere to drive for a bit after bedding in, without stopping, to let the brakes cool off.