reb78 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 As above, i was just wondering what folks do with their old junk like steering boxes? Weigh them in? My real query is, is there anywhere that would take them for a few beer tokens to be reconditioned and sold on, or are they just scrap? I just think it is a shame to throw these bits away if there is a specialist out there that can give them another life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Have you contacted Adwest? They might be interested in buying any of their steering boxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I weighed it in. I rang NPS and they were only offering a couple of quid, collected. Couldn't be arsed with the hassle, so weighed it in. Though there were some (a rarer disco box or something iirc) that they were paying better money for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Have you contacted Adwest? They might be interested in buying any of their steering boxes? I would do, but its a Gemmer 6 bolt, so i dont think they would be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 I weighed it in. I rang NPS and they were only offering a couple of quid, collected. Couldn't be arsed with the hassle, so weighed it in.Though there were some (a rarer disco box or something iirc) that they were paying better money for. I may just give them a try. I like recylcing these parts, so i hate throwing stuff away, but the garage is full of useless metal now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Strip it and repair yourself? If the seal land is damaged, there are methods of repairing out there, be another feather to your cap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Good idea. I might do that. There was play in the box which is why i replaced it. It wasnt really leaking at all. If scrap it, i will certainly take it apart to see how it works first. I wonder if the internals are available for these boxes still? I suppose they must be as you can get reconditioned ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrRob Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 How much would you get for weighing a box in? Got new one from Adwest ready to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyninety Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 ive got 5 or 6 steering box's some of them perfectly good and not leaking that nobody seems to want! There edging towards the scrap trailer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Dirtyninety I would have one off you subject to where you are or getting it to me I'm after a four bolt preferably with a disco arm I need to replace the one on 45. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diff Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Dirtyninety I would have one off you subject to where you are or getting it to me I'm after a four bolt preferably with a disco arm I need to replace the one on 45.Mike Me too! Regards, Diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I would love a non leaking 4 bolt for a defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrRob Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I would love a non leaking 4 bolt for a defender. Adwest new one. £280 with vat. New not refurb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 ive got 5 or 6 steering box's some of them perfectly good and not leaking that nobody seems to want! There edging towards the scrap trailer! Well, should be down to 2 or 3 now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyninety Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Dirtyninety I would have one off you subject to where you are or getting it to me I'm after a four bolt preferably with a disco arm I need to replace the one on 45.Mike Me too!Regards, Diff. If you chaps are serious, I'm sure there are two "good ones", let me get them out the shed and check. If you organised collection, you could have one for a forum donation hows that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Cool now all I have to do is find a way of getting it from you to me in Southampton. Any volunteers for a forum relay. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_a Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I have not long rebuilt a steering box, did a pretty thorough job, took it compltely apart and replaced the needl eroller bearings on the main shaft. Now, a mate and I did the reassembly and I would provide some pointers.... 1) getting the preload settings for the sector shaft appears tricky, the top adjuster and pre-loader interact making it difficult to know if you are getting it right, the method of measuring is tricky and I didn't own a torque wrench that goes low enough. 2) a lot of the kits don't seem to provide the 3 nylon piston seals in their kits. Now depressingly when I put the box back on it leaked terribly from the top cover and the lower seal. Like far worse than it was before I started, and at that point one of the needle roller sets had disintegrated. I haven't done a re-strip to try and see what we got wrong, but I'd suggest that if you are rebuilding then the top cover could bear with using PTFE tape in addition to the rubber seal. I have 2 boxes that leak tragically from the top cover now and I reckon corrosion seaps in and that the top seal is a bit of an issue. This makes the whole box appear wet, which fit in with what I have seen a few times. The lower seal I have no idea on until I look, my shaft had suffered and I though my seal was going to avoid it, but maybe it didn't and it's just sat on the damaged area. In which case probably a refacing of that area in some way would solve it. You will almost certainly need a hydraulic puller to get the arm off, nothing I tried moved it, it broke a bunch of pullers in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKMobile Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I'd love a spare 4 bolt one too if there are any left????? Where abouts are you might be able to sort some kind of forum relay????? Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Cool now all I have to do is find a way of getting it from you to me in Southampton. Any volunteers for a forum relay. Mike Dirtyninety is near me somewhere Mike, I could collect and find some way of getting it down to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diff Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 If you chaps are serious, I'm sure there are two "good ones", let me get them out the shed and check. If you organised collection, you could have one for a forum donation hows that? Yes, sounds good to me, many thanks! Regards, Diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diff Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 If you chaps are serious, I'm sure there are two "good ones", let me get them out the shed and check. If you organised collection, you could have one for a forum donation hows that? Yes, sounds good to me, many thanks! Regards, Diff. Cool now all I have to do is find a way of getting it from you to me in Southampton. Any volunteers for a forum relay.Mike I am in Fareham Mike, so if someone can sort a relay, I can collect the second one from you if that's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Just out of interest, at a main dealer, they had a puller for drop arms they had machined themselves (or at least had someone machine) as even the LR special puller was not that reliable. I'd broken several, including a genuine LR one trying to remove the arm. This struggled - but succeeded! I don't have accurate dimensions - it was just a sketch to aid my memory. A regular Hydraulic Puller thing screwed into the bottom. You slip the tube over the drop arm and wind up the hydraulic thingy. The outer tube had been hardened to stop wear around the groove which grips the shoulders of the drop arm. They also had a collar which could slide over the tube to meet the bottom of the drop arm (to further assist stopping the jaws from spreading) - but they didn't need it on mine. Anyway, it worked unbelievably well. They said it had never failed! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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