porsche Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 A friend has asked me post a question for him , does anyone know who does +2 inch leafs for a series l/r , i thought a bit wierd but here goes !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongie Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Don't need 2+ leafs just parabolics give about 2" or more. The other option is extended spring shackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Don't need 2+ leafs just parabolics give about 2" or more. The other option is extended spring shackles. indeed, but it doesnt last for ever. military shackles give a 1" lift iirc. just make some custom shackles up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Using longer shackles without longer hangers on the chassis for the front of each spring screws up the UJ angles and creates vibration which hammers the transmission. Been there - don't make the same mistake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porsche Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 but does it not have shackles only at one end , the other end is pinned to chassis ( so he tells me ) , its his new project , with abs and traction control from v8 something or other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongie Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yes.suspension works in arcs. It you add an additional 2" in the spring shackle it will raise the body/chassis, but will lower the diff nose as the axle twists downwards, it also does interesting things to steering angles but is not the end of the world. Like snagger says you will find on some you end up having excessive vibration from ujs but wide angle props etc would make this more comfortable. Modifying a series doesn't have to be limited, it can be quite simple and doesn't have to be expensive either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongie Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (ps that's yes there are only shackles at the rear) Another thing like snagger said if you match the extended shackle with the correct extended spring hanger to suit then you will also negate the prop rumble. I.e 1 ton spring shackles all round and 1 ton spring hangers welded on chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I had a 2A Lightweight with this setup, 1 ton front hangers welded to the dumb irons. Whoever did it knew their stuff, it was pre-parabolics but it had had half the leaves removed and was super flexible - the rear tub had the wheelboxes modified as it the wheels would touch but it still drove well on the road. Full roll cage, fuel tank in tub, 2286 on SU carb went like stink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Or 1 ton shackles, and grind the spring pads on the frant axle to correct the castor angle. I've been running mine like that with parabolics for donkeys years, No need to do anythign with the rear axle, as change in agle doesnt seem to cause any ill effects. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I had a 2A Lightweight with this setup, 1 ton front hangers welded to the dumb irons. Whoever did it knew their stuff, it was pre-parabolics but it had had half the leaves removed and was super flexible - the rear tub had the wheelboxes modified as it the wheels would touch but it still drove well on the road. Full roll cage, fuel tank in tub, 2286 on SU carb went like stink I think MOD LRs had the 1-ton spec front hangers as standard, all lightweights I have seen have them, and 'regular' ex-MOD LRs I have seen too (though of course I may not have seen them all!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Jones' Springs in the Midlands have a tempering oven to make springs, so i guess they can re-set them. I had my parabolics from them last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 No need to do anythign with the rear axle, as change in agle doesnt seem to cause any ill effects. Jon 'Fraid not. While I suffer no problems running extended hangers and shackles together, with just long shackles on the rear springs with a standard chassis, my UJs would only last 500 miles. The vibration would also have been harming the diff, half shafts and transfer box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Mines probably done about 10000 miles over the last few years since I fitted them (I do about 1500 miles a year) and I have never changed a prop u/j. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is yours an 88", Jon? It seems to affect 109s more than 88s. It went through several sets of UJs, each lasting 500 miles before they developped enough play that they sounded like the motorway rumble strip when I feathered the throttle at 60mph. Refitting the original shackles, even with worn UJs, cured the vibration immediately. I tried swapping back and forth several times to confirm it, and they were definitely the source of the problem. Once you move those prop flanges out of parallel, you start getting problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yes mines 88". As i said -never had a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomark10 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Got another question about leaf springs, got a series axle and plan to use it for my trailer build. Can I remove some of the layers of the leaf spring to make them softer for a lighter application..ie the trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yep, remove spring and remove (normally cut!) the bolt going through the middle, and strip a couple (few?) leaves out, bolt it back together with a new bolt, assuming it's not too long. Pretty sure there is a thread on here about how to disassemble, lube, and reassemble leaf springs, was very good, actually, here it is: http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=69403 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomark10 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yep, remove spring and remove (normally cut!) the bolt going through the middle, and strip a couple (few?) leaves out, bolt it back together with a new bolt, assuming it's not too long.Pretty sure there is a thread on here about how to disassemble, lube, and reassemble leaf springs, was very good, actually, here it is: http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=69403 Wow perfect! just the sort of thing I was looking for. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Clamp the springs before you cut the bolt!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My 88 is running with 109 rear shackles, because the para's have gone soft and sagged, and its the only way to keep her off the bump stops! I think new springs with new chassis next spring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 What brand of springs did you use? My TIC (Heystee) springs are over 15 years old and have done well over 100,000 miles and still have their full camber, and the front springs were coping reasonably well with the added weight of the winch, spare wheel, front tanks and all that sound proofing, though the addition of a third leaf to compensate has helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I was told they were the last set of British Springs before they changed hands....I have my doubts though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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