94Discovery Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 It is, but there's an after-market standalone controller available for it.What is wrong by transplanting the om606 and transmision with all the electronic trying to clean most the unwanted stuf from the doner car and adapting it to an LT230 Other than the electrical chalenge that most people hate (i have no problem with that Is there anything that is not reliable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyRoverlander Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 From what I've read it's an absolute electronic nightmare as it is a canbus wiring system, so litterary everything is connected to each other and it throws a hissy fit when something is not hooked up. I've read of one guy who made his own ecu or controller for the engine but it was a ton of work. The general opinion was to not bother trying to keep the electronics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Discovery Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 From what I've read it's an absolute electronic nightmare as it is a canbus wiring system, so litterary everything is connected to each other and it throws a hissy fit when something is not hooked up. I've read of one guy who made his own ecu or controller for the engine but it was a ton of work. The general opinion was to not bother trying to keep the electronics.Canbus oh what a piece off sh@&&$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 What is wrong by transplanting the om606 and transmision with all the electronic trying to clean most the unwanted stuf from the doner car and adapting it to an LT230 Other than the electrical chalenge that most people hate (i have no problem with that Is there anything that is not reliable? Using the engine ECU and some of the wiring is possible, but the standard gearbox controller needs to have the wheel speed sensors and everything at the right speed, so that needs to go. From what I've read it's an absolute electronic nightmare as it is a canbus wiring system, so litterary everything is connected to each other and it throws a hissy fit when something is not hooked up. I've read of one guy who made his own ecu or controller for the engine but it was a ton of work. The general opinion was to not bother trying to keep the electronics. Not at all i have it done. I'm using the standard ECU, it needs to be chipped to remove the immobilser key, but thats a 30 quid job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Discovery Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Using the engine ECU and some of the wiring is possible, but the standard gearbox controller needs to have the wheel speed sensors and everything at the right speed, so that needs to go. Not at all i have it done. I'm using the standard ECU, it needs to be chipped to remove the immobilser key, but thats a 30 quid job. Does it read speed from abs sensors? If yes it is possible to take the 4 of them put them on a single bracket and install them after the transmission on a single toothed wheel . I saw that on a sprinter engine transplant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyRoverlander Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 So it's not that hard to keep it electronic without ending up with a huge tangle of wires and computers hidden somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 The lt95 handles the Izuzu 4 litre turbo , dragging three axles about for the perentie ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hector-boy Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Hoss, Would you have the length from fwd on engine to aft of gearbox. I know very little about auto gearbox and ecu's. So was discounting them from the very beginning. If I can make the unit fit with a remote transfer box, what exactly would be needed to get the auto box from the merc working. Currently stripping the rrc 2door to the chassis. So decision time in terms of transmission. ... cheers hb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyRoverlander Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 The engine is app 75cm from pulley to rear face of block. Tranny lenght might be floating around on the web somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy neil Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Hi new on the forum I've been looking at putting an om606 in my defender. Currently have a Nissan ld28 TD in there. Can any tell me what the bmw gearbox is that is in the jetta? As I have a 6speed out of a 320d kicking around at the mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyRoverlander Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 No idea. I know it was a 5speed manual but no clue what it came out of. I know it is a Getrag gearbox, but for all I know that could be any manual box made by/used by bmw since the dark ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Bump - Any updates please? Watching this with interest as the power to weight ratio is amazing I should imagine it'll push a Landy along nicely. I'm just wondering if you left the engine as it is from the car what would you have to transplant to the Land Rover to get it running without a rare/expensive mechanical pump? Is it simple enough to do for someone with very little electronics knowledge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy neil Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I haven't made much progress apart from getting the om606 and it even came with the rite pump that's needed a very lucky find. Have spoke to someone about fitting bigger elements in the pump and giving it an overhaul but that's £695 so can wait a while. He can. Also supply me a clutch and flywheel package at £450 unsure of what flywheel it is. Gearbox wise it looks like I'm going to try a sprinter box as they look short and I can hopefully have a small prop made to join it to the transfer box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 I haven't made much progress apart from getting the om606 and it even came with the rite pump that's needed a very lucky find. Have spoke to someone about fitting bigger elements in the pump and giving it an overhaul but that's £695 so can wait a while. He can. Also supply me a clutch and flywheel package at £450 unsure of what flywheel it is. Gearbox wise it looks like I'm going to try a sprinter box as they look short and I can hopefully have a small prop made to join it to the transfer box. Clutches can be had for much cheaper than £450! £189 will get you a flywheel and clutch, here's the link to the one we've fitted. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390548444875?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Clutches can be had for much cheaper than £450! £189 will get you a flywheel and clutch, here's the link to the one we've fitted. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390548444875?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT What spec is your OM606, can I ask what sort of power you are putting through that clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmattley Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Anyone seen this? http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/159894/rover-series-ongoing-project-om606?.VE46D_msV8E=undefined A project on retro rides, the guy has fitted the merc engine in to a series 3, could be good inspiration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyRoverlander Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Very nice, ..... I like the fact that he did in with one vehicle the progression that I am just arriving at after about ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmattley Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Someone else did it too with a lovely machined adapter plate https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.410858029051457.1073741854.270231869780741&type=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Does anyone know what clutch plate you would need to mate an OM606 to a LT95? I see the sprinter single mass above sorts out the flywheel and pressure plate but I don't think the standard clutch plate will fit because it's a 10 spline plate. I think Boyt mentioned it should be from a Mitsubishi but I'm struggling to find the right one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmattley Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Well in the link above, they seem to have had an adapter for the spline made. On the retro rides build, the guy used the merc clutch and flywheel but with the female splined insert from the landy clutch pressed and welded in to the merc fly wheel. It just happened to fit apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmattley Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Any more progress on this build dude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy neil Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I have sent a message to the company that don't the om606 in the series 3 want to see if they have drawing or will make more of the adapters. Also been looking about since I saw that they used the 6 speed box mt 82 I'm guessing... Saw that this company say about a mt 85 dose any one know much info about it as I can't seem to find anything. http://www.defendericon.com/land-rover-defender-performance/34/defender-icon---engine-conversions/ Also looking at the pics of the series 3 the gear stick is a long way back is this just because it all has to sit back a bit more because of the recess at the front...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmattley Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Let us know if you hear about a drawing for that adapter mate, I'd love to do the same conversion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy neil Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Soon as I get a reply I will let you know. Just got to find out about this mt 85 box now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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