freeagent Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 interesting thread.... http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=30640 would LOVE to see Landrover sue Greenpeace!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 interesting thread....http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=30640 would LOVE to see Landrover sue Greenpeace!!!!! wouldn't it be nice to see Greenpeace screwed in the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 wouldn't it be nice to see Greenpeace screwed in the courts. Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=30640 Is it just me? I can hardly see the post for the signatures over there! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 When younger i used to have some sympathy for some of the issues Greenpeace were fighting (seal clubbing, whaling, oil spillages...) But these idiots have really lost their way. they are going to end up being more & more marignal & lose any respect from normal public. Grrr GET A LIFE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I found whale fat made my seal clubbing bat too slippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I found whale fat made my seal clubbing bat too slippy You're not supposed to use it for stirring the rendering pots m8 Would be excellent to see them hauled up, idiots like that get on their "moral high horse" and just think they are a law unto themselves and can do exactly what they like. An interesting statistic would be the amount of natural resources that Greenpeace and all the other looney 'mentalists squander in a typical year when they are driving, flying or boating around the world whinging at people, churning out flyers, making stickers etc etc etc. Anyway it seems to be getting colder here rather than warmer, so clearly not enough is being done in the cause of global warming. I shall be taking the V8 to work every day from now on to try and make sure we have decent weather for Christmas B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 talking of seal-clubbing bats - would it not be worth giving one to SWMBO concerned, and then parking the said vehicle in same carpark. see if the f***kers come back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Those numpties really do take the p*** with those stickers, when I had a little chat with Greenpeace at Glastonbury they couldn't justify or in any way defend that campaign but they're still running it. They couldn't answer what's a bad 4x4 and what's a good 4x4, what they count as a 4x4 (Fiat Panda anyone?) and if they'd taken account for the fact that most LR stuff stays on the road longer than your average eurobox, thus saving all the pollution of making a new car. Would be nice to see them get their arse kicked but I doubt LR would want to touch them for fear of bad publicity. Here's greenpeaces really very intelligent stand at Glasto: They were inviting people to throw balls at JC - obviously this is hard-hitting protest on a higher mental plane than us stoopid eco-terrorists And obviously getting 25 year old Range Rovers off the roads is going to STOP CLIMATE CHANGE NOW. They should team up with George Dubyah and declare war on climate change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 The Land Rover Climate Criminal stickers have been around for a while. The local lamposts are plastered with them - not surprising as the Greenpeace office is pretty close to home! Local 4x4s also get regularly ticketed (but for some reason my Defender has so far escaped them - they seem to go for the bling machines!). Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco_Dunk Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 ...... and to add a further 2-fingered salute, have a look at: http://survey.sky.com/morethan/Default.asp...sarticle_id=301 Apparently, the new 'green cars' like the prius are worse for the environment 'cos of the complex systems needed to build them ......... we told them so Dunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I wanna get some stickers made up that say "Toyota Prius - CLIMATE CRIMINAL!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed0 Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I thought of printing out T-shirts with facts about 4x4 and I think it is a really good idea. Sometimes I find that I cannot respond to crappy accusations because I dont know my facts. (I know !! I should pay more attention ) , but imagine - the dealerships can give them away with each new purchase too!!! So even the posh ladies in posher 4x4 can tell them to f**k o****** There are others that this would work for something nice and easy (and stylish !!! ) would go down well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPR Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Greenpeace is an organization full of contradictions. While ostensibly an environmental organization, it has become a rather large business concern. Thus, while many of the 'eco warriors', in "Operations" who chain themselves to oil rigs see themselves as the 'heart and soul' of the organization, they are in fact a small minority of not only the membership but the hard core cadre of the organization. It has hundreds of Finance staff - accountants, comprollers, treasurers etc; masses of lawyers, advertising and marketing people, and the PR spinners. For them, Greenpeace is a business. Their job is to keep the brand name top of mind and positively viewed (or at least reasonably feared) among both regulators and potential donors. It's not that Greenpeace doesn't know that the campaign against Land Rover is without scientific justification, it's that they don't care. When you run campaigns for a living, it's not all that important whether what you are campaigning for makes sense. And if anyone there has moral qualms about that, the fact is that the end game (ostensibly) is to mitigate fossil fuel based contributions to climate change, so while Land Rover may not be guilty of the crimes they claim, as long as it promotes awareness, its fine. This is all by way of explaining that Greenpeace would be overjoyed to be sued by Land Rover and have more than likely established this as a potential pro in their camapign strategy (along with a provision for legal fess and an eventuial settlement). Land Rover suing Greenpeace - even over Intellectual Property violations like illegal use of trademark - translates into substantial free press/PR which in turn equals greater awareness for the cause, or more donations (depending on which end of the business you are on). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 RPR, sad but very true.... I wonder how many of Greenpeace's white collar workers drive 4x4's, bet they won't publish THAT statistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 greenpeace was a good idea once, but like most good ideas has lost its way & need scrapping. however I WANT ONE OF THOSE STICKERS! i'd put it on my car with pride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 So would I. In fact I might write to Greenpeace and ask if I can have 2, one for each of my Land Rovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 however I WANT ONE OF THOSE STICKERS! i'd put it on my car with pride Yeah I know what you mean - I had to pinch a "Climate Criminal" sticker off a Rangie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKiwi Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I wonder if they make any bigger stickers, I would put one on my Land Rover! Surely, if people started asking for them, it would take the wind out of their sales (pun intended!). Though thinking about it for a few seconds more, whilst it could become a humourous 'must have' for hardened Land Rover drivers, we are very much in the minority and they are only really interested in the many many more Land Rover drivers who think their car is a Jeep or whatever (you know, the ones that dont wave back on the road ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruntus Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I actually quite like the sticker, can you get more? I would wear mine with pride G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I found whale fat made my seal clubbing bat too slippy You're supposed to smear the whale fat over yourself. That way the seals will think you're their oppressed brother of the sea. You can then slither up to then and blat them over the head! Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 So has anyone emailed Greenpiss yet so see if we can get a supply of these stickers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKiwi Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 We could also say that we want to help their cause by sticking them on all 2.0+ Mondeos, Priuses, etc that actually pollute (long term) more than our Land Rovers. How about it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 [shame]Erm, I got a 2.0litre Mondeo[/shame] Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKiwi Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Les, [backpedal] There was absolutely no scientific evidence to support my straw clutching 'facts' above. In fact, Parkers show these figures: Mondeo 2.0i 31-34 MPG dependent on model Disco 300 Tdi 27 MPG Disco V8 19 MPG Prius 57 MPG [/backpedal] Feel better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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