BogMonster Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 If you buy a new Defender with alloys fitted from the factory, what does it come with to hold the spare wheel? The problem I have always had with the alloy spare (genuine wheels) is that you have to hold the damn thing in mid air to get the first nut started on the threads, due to the design of nut and the size of the hole in the rim. Steel wheels locate on the studs accurately, but the alloy holes are much bigger, so the studs aren't centred in the holes. Are they like this with factory fitted alloys or is there some "thing" that fits to the carrier to locate the wheel in the right place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydie Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 If they are the same as a Disco then strong elbows & forearms are required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 They are exactly like this from factory, just standard ex disco 1 wheel carrier. Still it's better than the old three long studs on a plate, any slight misalignment of the studs meant pushing and shoving of the wheel in an attempt to get the last nut started when putting an alloy on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 OK, thanks, I thought there was maybe some sort of thing that slipped over the studs and located an alloy with the wheel centre (as they locate on the hub) but all I could find listed anywhere was some big washers which don't overcome the problem of holding it in mid air! Time for SimonR to invent a Y-Wheelcarrier - be easy to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Can you make a tapered spacer to fit over the stud this would line the wheel up ready for the nut you would only really need one but three would be easier. Only problem I can see is there enough room that it doesn't foul the nuts when tightened. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 As Mike said, can't you make 3 plastic or alloy bushes to overcome this? Or maybe a device that fits over the studs and locates the wheel through its centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 I already have I found a deep socket that sleeved over the M16 studs (it was probably a 17mm, can't remember) and sleeved a piece of blue poly water pipe over it which fits fairly well inside the hole in the alloy. So, changing wheels in the workshop, pop the socket on to the top stud, slide the wheel on, put the bottom two nuts on, take the socket out and fit the final nut. Works reasonably well. This is fine as a workshop aid but I am after something permanent - I've already thought of an idea but don't have the metal on hand to make it easily. Meanwhile I'll probably just buy another socket to put in the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 If you fit a sleeve or bush to the studs, then the alloy wheel nuts will not wind in enough to hold the wheel securely. Just lift the wheel onto the studs and then roll the wheel to one side while you put the first nut on, then to the other side for the second nut. It only gets difficult on the third nut if any of the studs are misaligned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Ratchet strap it in the back, saves all this palava! Will 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 would a smaller central hoop like the bigger one on the older carrier work, it would allow the wheel to be rested on it for stud alignment but have to be small enough to pass through the centre hole of the alloy wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Ratchet strap it in the back, saves all this palava! Will 8) I fitted my wheel carrier to get the spare OUT of the back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW8IZR Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I suppose you could fit the other two studs and put the tapered plastic sleeves on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innes6320 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 i am away to buy a new rear door for my defender 1999 td5 but was thinking of buying a swing away spare wheel carrier aswell. what kind of door do you get for it. a plain door or one with the holes cut out for the wheel carrier on the back door. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 You'll want the holes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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