mcc1979ian Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Ok so i been looking at this kit on ebay to upgrade the front brakes on my 1985 90 but lrs say i need a 300tdi axle to fit it. Can anyone confirm this please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 What's wrong with your standard brakes? Do you have vented discs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcc1979ian Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 An just solid discs. Both discs and calipers need replacing so looking to upgrade whilst doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I recently replaced all my brakes. ... fitted standard rear calipers etc but early 110 front ones... The caliper is bigger and so are the pads.... it stops much quicker now! ... on solid discs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Ron, is the early 110 caliper that much bigger then ? Don't they have the smaller 41mm pistons ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 The caliper is as big as can be fitted on the standard hub..... and the pads are about 40% bigger than 90 ones..... unsure about piston size or exact balance but you almost face plant the windscreen now. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 my '89 110 runs vented front disc/calipers with 46mm pistons. vented disc are FTC902 http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/7183/FTC902-BRAKE-DISC-FRONT-VENTED.html?search=FTC902&page=1 Caliper for vented front disc are STC1266 rh http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/11670/SEB500460-BRAKE-CALIPER-FRONT-RH.html?search=STC1266&page=1 & STC1267 lh http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/11672/SEB500470-BRAKE-CALIPER-FRONT-LH.html?search=stc1267&page=1 from 1991 the number of brake parts was rationalised across the 90/110 range. the above parts should fit your existing axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 am i right in thinking for a larger caliper and solid disks (of you so desire) you could get vented calipers and remove the sandwich spacer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 No, the vented calipers and pads and discs are identical to the non vented. The spacer is there to just make the caliper wider to clear the disc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 as above, the 41mm & 46mm piston calipers are physically the same size, just the piston bore diameter is 5mm bigger for the bigger piston diameters, both fit behind the standard 5.5 inch wide LR steel wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcc1979ian Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Western do you know if those parts you linked to above will fit a 90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I would imagine so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 don't see why the wouldn't my 110 is a 1989 vehicle & thet fitted my hubs ok, I used 110 front hubs to convert the rear to disc on the existing stub axles, drum braked hubs can't be used as the part the disc bolts to isn't present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcc1979ian Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Excellent. That will probably be my route. Did you do a tech post on yer rear disc conversion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I did for my 110, different axle to yours on a 90. quickest & easiest way to go rear disc is fit a RRC or Discovery 200 or 300tdi rear axle complete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I would just fit 300tdi axles front and rear anyway, they are so cheap these days it's daft not to (I skipped two pairs recently as sick of them in the way). 24 spline diffs and shafts and parts are a lot cheaper for them than the earlier axles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwakers Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I would just fit 300tdi axles front and rear anyway, they are so cheap these days it's daft not to (I skipped two pairs recently as sick of them in the way). 24 spline diffs and shafts and parts are a lot cheaper for them than the earlier axles. You should have said something I,d have had them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I would just fit 300tdi axles front and rear anyway, they are so cheap these days it's daft not to (I skipped two pairs recently as sick of them in the way). 24 spline diffs and shafts and parts are a lot cheaper for them than the earlier axles. Except that are not as good. Weaker half shafts, weaker CV joints, weaker hub bearings, wealer drive flanges. The newer axles are downgrade. Later brakes fit on earlier axles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Later brakes will fit on an earlier axle if it is metric. If you use an older imperial axle from an older Range Rover the caliper mounting holes are a different size. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 How is it that early 110 calipers have bolted straight onto a 300 axle then?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 They will bolt up, but the bolts should be a tight fit at the shoulder in the axle/calipers (I forget which way LR ones bolt up!) If you have wrong bolts they rely on friction of the clamping forces rather the locating nature of the good fit of the bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 because early 110 callipers are metric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Early 110s are indeed metric. Ron, my note regarding imperial and metric is derived from experience when I fitted an relatively early imperial RR rear axle to my 90. The caliper bolt pitch is the same but the thread and the bolt shoulder size is different. I think it changed from imperial to metric around about '79/'80 so all 90/110 will be metric. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hub bearings are the same, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Thanks Mo and others.......... that clears things up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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