Happyoldgit

That's right. I may not have chosen the one you recommended but that is not to say I did not appreciate the advice. Thank you 🙂

Quite so (I was referring to the Armor 9 or 10, apologies for not specifying) but among other things the camera specs are a bit higher although not as good as the busted phone. I think I stated somewhere that a reasonable camera is one criteria. The infra red aspect will be a novel, and if good, useful too. PAX 🙂

A Doogee S96 it is. New or newishish models from Blackview, Ulefone and others were in the running too but I didn't want to chuck chunks of money at something that often looked like it would be coming direct from CH or HK and thus attract import duties and VAT. While the Doogee S96 has lesser specifications in some respects than the phone that just went mammaries up it's always swings and roundabouts with this stuff. Direct comparisons of specs on paper don't always equate to real life performance and experience ...but I will see. I dare say someone could very well be taking a sharp intake of breath right now and be ready to type "I wouldn't have chosen that if I were you, blooming' awful thing! You should have gone for one of these [insert much higher spec phone for the same money on offer for just today] instead" but that's just what I expect knowing my luck just recently 🤣🤣🤣

Admittedly I am not firing on all cylinders at present and am currently waiting for an appointment for a scan which will hopefully show what the last few months of chemotherapy has achieved, but it is amazing how much time can be spent sorting out a sudden accidental phone breakage! Fortunately I had my old phone to hand so was able to transfer some of the stuff but even with backups of the new phone to hand it all takes time and frustration! Replacements for the screen and digitiser are expensive and not available that quickly but I did find a place that can supply at a reasonable cost sk I will have a go at a DIY replacement. Getting it repaired elsewhere will be a sizeable amount of money that could be put toward a more durable phone. Even with my currently often shaky hands having a bash at repairing has to be worth a gamble, there is some data on the device I would like to retrieve but cannot do so without a working touchscreen. I have used Otterboxes in the past but not this time. I've also had C port issues and spent time with a wooden toothpick and airline picking out bits of stuff that have somehow found their way in there. Thanks for all the much appreciated comments and suggestions chaps. I did spend a chunk of time looking at the Techradar and other comparison / review sites beforehand but my head began to hurt after a while. My wallet was also getting jittery over the prices of the latest model trendy normal phones - scary stuff. The poor old thing has only just stopped shaking from shock after forking out on a spanking Macbook Pro recently too!

I've had one or two rugged phones in the past but having just busted the screen and digitiser of my current, cased and screen protected 5 month old ordinary smartphone I'm thinking of going back to something a bit more durable. Does anyone have any recommendations [apart from be more careful, don't drop your phone etc] with regard to a good current, or recent model, unlocked, ruggedised smartphone that won't break the bank? I don't want to know about cases for ordinary phones - been there - done that etc I want a phone that's built to withstand use that's a bit more than the daily commute or sat at a desk, something that won't throw a wobbly when used out in the wilds and workshop.

Was thinking the same. One of us will more than likely tackle it in due course [I feel like c**p at this afternoon due to health stuff so it won't be me until I'm a little clearer headed].

Gents, With respect, let's not get into a meta discussion about the forum, please. Thanks.

Gentlemen, let us not forget the human side.... Thank you.

This. Use the search facility and you'll find that the subject of LED lights has been done to death. While you may spend your money how you wish and end up with something that does the job you want bear in mind should you be involved in an accident involving 3rd parties etc and your vehicle be found to be fitted with lighting that falls outside the regulations - even something considered so trivial as what has been stated above then you could well end up in hot water. Your choice. A decent pair of Crystal shells, decent bulbs and an uprated wiring and relay system will serve you well.

I can think of other things I would rather sink 190k into.

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Interesting thread gents.

Suit yourselves. My life is too full of other dross at the moment to argue the toss so you carry on, I'm taking a break from LR4x4. Condolences to the family and friends of the deceased.

Look, this thread is making me feel increasingly uncomfortable. Let's just drop all the speculation and conjecture and instead again remember that a child was killed. Show a bit of decorum and respect please.

Tragic. Condolences to the family and friends of the young victim.

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Just listen for the beep ....he says having made a point of retaining as many of the original big, chunky, satisfyingly clunky Bakelite light switches in the house as possible 😉

Thing is though, the more you use them, the more you get used to using well laid out touchscreens. The icon positions become as familiar as dinosaur switches and knobs and resting a palm on the edge of the screen to steady the finger jab. Pecking at a screen icon with a finger at the end of an extended arm in a moving vehicle is going to be hit and miss. I don't like finding that someone else has left fingerprints on the screen though, just as I don't like fingermarks left over a carelessly adjust interior mirror - but in my case the offending smears are going to be from family members as they are the only ones who drive my stuff.

Good review. Still not sold on the looks, price or that I would probably feel guilty chucking a load of muddy, dirty, sh!tty cr@p in the back. I'm quite sold on the 4x4 pickups with a canopy in that respect which is why I like my Ranger so much and will probably buy another if my current health issues permit. They are relatively cheap to buy and designed to do a job, I'm not sure what 'job' this new Defender is supposed to do, strikes me it's a more plastic and gadget filled people carrier than anything.

The touchscreen in my Ranger works well, the biggest hassle is hitting the right bit of screen if the vehicle is bouncing about, I have to sort of brace the side of hand against the nearest edge of the screen which stabilises the finger enough to select the right control. The daft thing is that things like heater, aircon, fan etc can be controlled both via the touchscreen or by traditional buttons.

I have two pairs of large, side hung, wooden doors on my twin bay garage come workshop. The frames are still good but the tongue and groove infill is well past it's best, I suspect to the due south aspect and old tar based barn paint that has been slapped on over the years. One or two of the frame side timbers are getting a bit iffy too. There's an awful lot of weight and leverage bearing on these timbers. Before I was taken ill last year I had a couple of roller shutter suppliers / manufacturers out to look at the building, discuss and quote. Fortunately there is more than enough room to mount the roller boxes well above the frames. I thought the total to supply and install was pretty good (would need to check the quotes for exact figure. I was all set to order, my son and I installed a new circuit and set of 13a sockets in readiness .....then life got in the way. All being well I fully intend to get a set installed ASAP.

Awful thing, the turning circle might be interesting. The Perentie on the other hand looks a little more acceptable..

Thank you. I'm sorry, my fault, looks like I drew the short fuse recently.

Sorry I am hardly new to the history and ethos behind the various models so you are lecturing the wrong person. I'm too tired to dance around on the head of a pin though, therefore I will thank you for your comments will let my pearl's of wisdom can stand.

I can't help thinking that conversations like these rippled away when they brought in the weaker all synchro gearbox, introduced the new fangled Series 3 plastic dash, dropped wire grilles and replaced them with plastic, and a plethora of other things over the years / decades. I'm invariably struck for the need to mention off road gear as if it was an automatic kudos generator. So what if you buy a vehicle, use it solely for commuting, pulling a caravan or boat or whatever?.Not every 4x4 owner feels the need to equip their respective vehicles for an extended conservation safaris to help save the lesser Packham tree fewit that once roamed Bushey high Street in vast numbers. Life can potentially be just too short.