Happyoldgit

On a corporate level I would agree with this. However I Huw Williams makes a valid point and potential commercial N1 purchasers in the UK will be pondering what advantages the Grenadier can bring to their business mindful of the lack of tax advantages. Perhaps, in the UK at least, the vehicle will come to be perceived as more of a lifestyle rather than utility brand.

I liked my Defender USW's as it kept whatever was in the back away from prying eyes. I wouldn't have a Raptor mainly because of the limited tow rating but they are just a bit too lifestyle over work for my liking. The 3.2 Ranger auto that I bought new [when my last 110 CSW and the dealership brassed me off so much I got rid after a couple of years] was a good truck and surprisingly refined. My current Isuzu D-Max V Cross does 30+mpg is equally civilised and also capable of towing 3.5 - and has the benefit of a separate loadspace and canopy. That will do me until I am convinced that the Grenadier, and back-up, is actually worth the outlay.

I think it is inevitable that there will be both pro and con [whinging?] comments below most of these videos, such is the nature of the Youtube beast. Much comment is made of "solid sounding doors" but of course a lot of research and work has gone into making car doors sound more substantial by the use of sound deadening material within the door and door trim cards, same applies to internal trim. Out of pure curiosity I would be interested to know the thickness of the door skin and frame material used on the Grenadier. The jury is still out on whether I will bother trying to convince SWMBO that we should buy one. My initial enthusiasm about the project of some years ago has been tempered quite substantially in the interim.

Aye, would certainly be worthwhile tugging it out, pressure washing it top and bottom and then take a few photos against a less cluttered background. Then reassess.

Photos?

Kudos to him / them for being honest but cannot help but feel their purchase was somewhat naive and not well researched. Being first to own a brand new model, speccing big tyres, driving it in such a manner to appear "cool" are perhaps indicators of the some of the reasoning behind their purchase. An "adventurer" where image is an important factor. The trim finish highlighted is poor and while it may be a fairly easy DIY fix that is not what ought to be required on a vehicle in this price bracket - even one with a commercial bias.

Another video from these folks but this time concentrating on the "infotainment" - with a better microphone!

The ability to increase rear loadspace by being able to fold rear seats is sometimes handy. I'm pretty sure that in at least my last few 110's the middle row seat backs unlocked and hinged forward then maybe the whole lot tipped up and folded forward vastly increasing the rear loadspace which was often useful for loading up with stuff like animal feedstuff or longer items. Having that ability in a unitary cabin utility vehicle IS useful. A Td5 Disco 2 or diesel P38 RR auto are from a different era.

Good thread, potential for being made sticky [pun intended] if enough people contribute.

Harry's "how does it work as a farm car" review...

Sticking it in a freezer used to be an old trick didn’t it?

Another good review from Harry.

Apart from the dire sound quality due to location and the questionable steering techniques that is a useful review. Rear seats that don’t fold flat to increase rear load space and the dire fuel consumption are things that really do need addressing.

Still waiting for a call from the local dealer who has had my name for a while. He said he would ring when he had a demo to try. I am not going to chase.

The summary is probably correct but if a manufacturer can make more profit from a certain sector then that is the market they will pursue regardless.

Crikey.... What is she after?😉

Agree with all that, the format is well past its sell by date. I hardly watch any mainstream broadcast stuff now barring the occasional old film or programme from back in the day on the Talking Pictures old f@rts channel. The missus and I will admit to being regular viewers of Forged In Fire despite it being based on artificial deadlines.

Thanks chaps, I shall have a browse...

My commercial inspection lamp is years old and getting a bit past it. It's a 240v mains but with a 12v transformer built into the plug, the lamp itself takes heavy duty bulbs that seem to last forever. That said the transformer occasionally buzzes and despite various repairs in the past the ball and socket joint in the clamp is loose again so the lamp itself doesn't stay in position for very long which was a chore when working on the MB transfer box last week. I quite fancy updating to a cordless rechargeable LED job so would be interested in what others are using.

Is your petrol Freelander comparable to a new Grenadier? (Thanks for the unnecessary advice regarding the etiquette of this forum - speaking as one of the team who wrote the rules and assisted in managing the place before you joined. Please feel free to message me personally if you wish to discuss further).

Thanks for the first impressions Jeremy. Imposing vehicle. 23 mpg is likely to have Greta blubbing.

I had a TD5 90 that had been through Special Vehicles for additional equipment and mods some years ago. I was able to get full info from either JLR... or was it Gaydon? Hmmmm. I'm not sure where the records are held now.

That is nice, I likes that I does.

I understand what is being said but there are ways and means of cutting through snotty sales staff who's allegiance to one brand is fickle to non existent. Most I have encountered dance from dealership to dealership, BMW one / month year, Volvo the next. Hanging around a showroom showing obvious interest in this or that is time consuming, a direct approach is better. Ignore the receptionist but approach a salesperson, make eye contact, introduce yourself, offer to shake hands or whatever the post pandemic norm is, tell them exactly what you are considering, make it clear you have considered funding, know what you are talking about and cut short any attempts to sidetrack. It works.

Excellent news!!!