paime Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 haha! Every experience i have of gasless MIGs to date has been a horrible one full of splatter and burnt trousers. Quite excited about the prospect of going gasless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Urchfab on Youtube has some pretty good welding tutorials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Clark are okay. There's a lot of knowledge about them on mig welding forum, so if your welder dies, you can probably fix it. Not amazing. But the red stuff is not a bad option second hand. See it working! Mines 20 years old and still does what needs doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 27 June 2019 at 9:17 PM, Gazzar said: Clark are okay. There's a lot of knowledge about them on mig welding forum, so if your welder dies, you can probably fix it. Not amazing. But the red stuff is not a bad option second hand. See it working! Mines 20 years old and still does what needs doing. I'll echo that. My Clarke has survived abuse and done a lot of welding over the last 18yrs (150 amp model) so don't discount them. I keep threatening to replace it but it still plods away and for a budget/DIY spec machine it can lay down some nice welds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 Is that the Clark 151te? I've seen one of them on gumtree at £200 with a full bottle of gas and 0.6mm wire which seems like good value to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Yes that's the one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Go for it I'd say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 The way i see it, unless i distort the chassis somehow, i can't really make it worse than it already is so i might as well give it a bash. The only additional cost is the welding machine but by the sounds of it these things last decades so i'm sure i'll get the use out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR-HIPPO Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Go for it. Being able to stick bits of metal together (even crudely) is a real game changer. You will be amazed how many uses you can find for a mig welder, it will change the way you look at a / approach a multitude of problems. I wager it will not be long before you wonder how on earth you managed without one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 On 6/30/2019 at 8:35 AM, paime said: The only additional cost is the welding machine Which will likely have paid for itself after the 1st job or two... and if not you can sell it again without losing much unless you've blown it up somehow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 I'm struggling to find myself a welder. I'd like a min 130amp, 13v socket with a euro torch and hopefully for somewhere in the region of £300. Ebay has some but it's all local collection and postage is monstrous on the heavy machines. I've tried gumtree but it's slim pickings up here in Aberdeen and i've also looked at i-bidder. Is there anywhere else i need to be looking or is it a matter of waiting until the right deal comes along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Put a wanted ad up on the mig welding forum I linked to earlier. There were a few machines on there that would suit your specs recently - not sure if they have sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, reb78 said: Put a wanted ad up on the mig welding forum I linked to earlier. There were a few machines on there that would suit your specs recently - not sure if they have sold. Joined and found the 'wanted' section 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 If you find one that's a way away it might be worth asking if anyone can forum-relay the unit up to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Theres a few on there still for sale: https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/migatronic-rallye-166.91927/ THere was a clarke recently but perhaps its sold Edited July 4, 2019 by reb78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 https://www.gumtree.com/p/welding-equipment/mig-welder-/1345109586 This one is cheap, maybe too cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 It is cheap. If it's local, go try it. Euro torch, so desirable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Cebora is a good make, as long as it's single-phase and working that should be a good unit, spares should be available etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 I've gone for a Sealey Supermig 140 in the end. it's 30-140amps off a 13A socket. it might struggle with that supply on thicker steel but i'm welding 1-3mm tops on the defender so i think it'll be fine. Work starts in earnest tomorrow with chopping out the outriggers. At least if it all goes pear shaped i can blame you lot for encouraging me! I've been doing some frantic research and quite like this approach from Britannia. If i can avoid welding in awkward places over the top of the chassis then that'll be a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 A wee update after today's activities. Managed to get the old rockslider off after a lot of persuasion and, in the end, a cutting disc. I'll have to take the rest of it off later as i've left the tube in the rear rock slider but it can wait until later. Cut off quite a bit of the old outrigger and things were a bit more rusty than i'd hoped. The chassis behind isn't too bad but will need a patch welding on and the triangular bit (not sure what it's called) is holed quite badly so that will need replaced. More cutting to do tomorrow and then i'm hoping to trim the new outrigger to fit the old space. I'll be doing plenty of practice on the old cut off bits to try and get the welder settings correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) When you are setting welder up if it looks like wire is burning back to the tip you will need to increase wire feed if it seems to be pushing gun away you will need to decrease speed slightly get work pieces as clean as possible and a good earth preferably as close to point of welding as is practicable bacon frying and got somewhere near good luck regards Stephen Edited July 6, 2019 by Stellaghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 Did some welding today and was quite pleased with how it turned out. Only burnt through the steel once and it was on a thin/formerly rusty bit so i wasn't too fussed. Removed the rest of the outrigger and started prepping the surface to take another plate before lining up the new outrigger. One problem i can see is the foot of the A pillar is probably beyond repair. I see YRM do some repair sections but how do i get the old one off? Do i cut above the lower hinge captive nuts and weld in the new section? Here's the repair piece: https://yrmit.co.uk/product/lhs-lower-door-pillar-feet-land-rover-defender-series-23/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR-HIPPO Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) It has bee about 20 years since I replaced one of these, but If my memory serves me correctly: I think that the feet slip inside the bottom of the door pillar, and are spot welded in place. You would need to locate and drill out the spot welds in order to pull the old foot down out of the pillar. Glad to hear you are making progress at last. Edited July 7, 2019 by MR-HIPPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 14 hours ago, MR-HIPPO said: I think that the feet slip inside the bottom of the door pillar, and are spot welded in place. You would need to locate and drill out the spot welds in order to pull the old foot down out of the pillar. I'll give that a bash and see how i get on. I'll get the new outrigger in place first though in case anything moves and then i won't have any reference points to line everything up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 6:53 PM, MR-HIPPO said: You would need to locate and drill out the spot welds in order to pull the old foot down out of the pillar good luck with that, I have just "rescued" a foot from a corroded pillar and there are quite a few spot welds to remove, luckily for me I need to replace the pillar anyway have you had a good look at the rest of the chassis? that is fairly heavy corrosion and you may be close to being better off replacing the chassis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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