uninformed Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 The next step in trying to finish the rear cross member is fabricating a structural backbone for the tub bulkhead and seat base. Like all things LR, whilst there are many identical bits, there are many variations. My Cab Chassis truck cab has the structural angle on the rear side of the cab rear bulkhead. This includes two cleats that get a stay bolted to each and to each chassis rail. These are about the seatbelt retainer clasp area. On the forward side there are bolt in brackets for seatbelt mounts and a couple of stiffening gussets. Full body hard tops and pick-ups have the angle on the forward side and incorporate the seatbelt mounts etc into them. I stumbled across this going through YRM site for parts Reason is the floor ties into the tub bulkhead and there are gussets from each floor stiffener and at the edges of the wheel wells. Not the red circles lol. I have no idea if the factory affair is one piece or two like the YRM replacement, they may have gone 2 for shipping purposes, either way I want one piece so it helps stiffen this area. That may seem unnecessary but where my seat base and tub bulkhead meet/bolt, they are both bowed down across their length. So some quick measurements and a basic sketch to my local steel supplier had him fold me some 3mm mild steel. I still have to profile it to the underside shape of the tub bulkhead. That’s where I’m at this week anyway… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Check out these doors Serg.... Land Rover LCV2, a lightweight prototype from 1997. 13 were made. BMW axed the project. I wonder if there are any spare doors kicking about...🤔 Cheers Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 100"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: 100"? Doesn't look like it, I think it's just doors and bulkhead. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) Completely custom. Alloy bulkhead. Composit body panels, ally suspension parts. 2.0 diesel from a Rover car. 500kgs lighter than a 90! Edited November 15, 2023 by TD5toV8110 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Ah I think the lower roofline makes it look that way.... The LCV2/3: https://www.aronline.co.uk/concepts-and-prototypes/land-rover-lcv23/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Well one of you talented lot must be able to bang out some longer doors especially given how they seem to be a weak point of LR design it's surprising there's not more out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 K110/Serg, "Hold my beer!" 🤣🤣🤣 Alloy framed tig'd masterpiece coming up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninformed Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 Haha settle down guys 😆 I’ll be doing Series style doors to begin with. For one, just easier. I’ve spoken with my engineer and as long as they meet or exceed my original doors for side impact protection then all should be good. I have 2x L & R series front door bottoms that I’ll de skin cut, shunt and modify. There is a guy in Oz making new skins and has said he could make longer skins for me. I thought I’d sorted aluminium door top extrusion but was let down. The major players are not interested in selling me any lengths, so I’m just hoping something comes up by the time I need it. btw scaling the rims on the LR LCV 2/3 shows the doors only 60-100mm longer than standard. Interesting vehicle too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Yep, said 3 inches in the article I read...🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninformed Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 10 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Well one of you talented lot must be able to bang out some longer doors especially given how they seem to be a weak point of LR design it's surprising there's not more out there. East Coast Rovers built some extended Defenders with longer front doors, they were not interested in selling doors or skins. Rocky Mountain makes aluminium door tops for Series, they would not sell me longer lengths of their extrusion to make my own. I found someone in the UK that offered to help as they get door top extrusions run, but in the end didn’t come through. The doors are no problem for me, but I’d much prefer a full aluminium door top. If I had the $$$ I’d get my own extrusion run and sell it in kit form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 hours ago, uninformed said: I’d much prefer a full aluminium door top. If I had the $$$ I’d get my own extrusion run and sell it in kit form. The door tops are relatively easy to make in aluminium, especially with your skills, if you look at page 118 on my mog axle thread you can see how I made my aluminium door tops for my lightweight, possibly not up to your standard of fabrication, but they do the job Regards Stephen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninformed Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 Thanks Stephen, they look good mate 👍👍. I’ll do something similar if I can’t sort extrusions. Heres Stephens page for anyone wanting a look https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/102886-mog-404-axles/page/118/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Ullrich Aluminium, just down the road from you Serg. Custom extrusions! 😍 I've got early Rocky Mountain tops here if you want to "replicate" the profile. Cheers Dave Ullrich | Custom Aluminium Extrusions Edited November 16, 2023 by TD5toV8110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninformed Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 I got a little more done on the tub bulkhead angle. Most holes are drilled, profiled to the bulkhead but still have to weld in the shaped flanges. It was raining all afternoon so didn’t want to uncover the 110. I started extending the floor/seat base sills… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninformed Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 One done, one to go. Suffered a bit of distortion welding the bottom flange on. Bowed in the vertical plane even though it was clamped to a beam. I’ll pre stress the next one. I added a few extra fixing points for the floor and seat base (mine would get dirt etc under the edges) turned out ok. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurbie Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 8 hours ago, uninformed said: One done, one to go. Suffered a bit of distortion welding the bottom flange on. Bowed in the vertical plane even though it was clamped to a beam. I’ll pre stress the next one. I added a few extra fixing points for the floor and seat base (mine would get dirt etc under the edges) turned out ok. wow ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 This is going to be one special rig when finished! 😍 Cheers Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uninformed Posted December 3, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2023 I got the 2nd sill rail fabricated and trial fitted them and the seat base to check legroom etc. With the seat set at the same distance to brake pedal as my X5 donor it’s quite comfortable with good ergonomics regarding steering etc. Also note the space behind the seats for storage and my shoulder should not be molesting the B pillar/cab top anymore…. I’m 6’1” with reasonably long legs for reference… 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 The quality of your fabrication work is outstanding. What do you do for a job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninformed Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 11 hours ago, daveturnbull said: The quality of your fabrication work is outstanding. What do you do for a job? Thanks mate 👍. I’m a carpenter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, uninformed said: 👍 I’m a carpenter Interesting... That answers a few questions for me.. Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninformed Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: Interesting... That answers a few questions for me.. Regards Stephen Yes, the ply workbench is from site scraps 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninformed Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Very little progress here…. Had a few setbacks but such is life. All I’ve managed is a little machine work on my LT230. Milled and bored the low range switch boss to accept a steel bush I turned up. This is so I can mount a pneumatic DCV that is activated by the Hi/Low selector shaft. It’s for another system in the vehicle. Still a lot to figure out for that but it’s a start…. Of course LR bore was not concentric to the Hi/Low shaft 😁 I fixed that… Bush with shoulder and internal thread. 15/32 - 32 NS was a fun one to find 🤦🏻♂️ shrink fit of 0.02mm, primed with MEK and installed with 638 retaining compound DCV threaded in place. I still have to machine a “button” of precise length to extend the DCV shaft for accurate activation travel. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 33 minutes ago, uninformed said: Very little progress here…. Had a few setbacks but such is life. Setbacks.....tell me about it ......lol However, progress is still good no matter how little Keep up the good work Regards Stephen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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