g-mack Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 cheers western! right done a test and the panel is fine. i just don't think I've made a good job inserting the pins into the connector! so I've ordered some new connectors from paul and a load of 1mm cable and I'm gonna attach a 3" wire to the pins and insert them on bench so i can do a better job, then just join wires after. is there a knack to crimping the little buggers! I'm using the hozan tool. seem to be able to crimp the wires in fine but always make a bit of a mess of the cable crimp! this is what is making it difficult to insert them think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Gordon, The 040 terminals in the 16-way and 20-way instrument warning lights connectors, won't take 1.0mm2 cable. They're sized for 20 - 24 AWG, which works-out to 0.2 - 0.56mm2 The factory crimps on these terminals are narrow and high - . . It's not possible to replicate the above, using the Hozan crimper. However, the Hozan crimper will crimp these terminals, you just have to do it in stages. Stage 1 - crimp the conductor, using 1.7L Stage 2 - crimp the conductor, using 1.4 Stage 3 - crimp the insulation, using 2.4L Stage 4 - crimp the insulation, using 2.0L Stage 5 - crimp the insulation, using 1.7L It sounds a bit of a 'faff' - but, you soon get the hang of it. When I send you your connectors and teminals tomorrow, I'll include an 040 terminal crimped to a length of 0.5mm2 cable, that I've crimped using the stages above. Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 G-mack, you're not alone in finding it a pain in the butt job to get them in ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 thanks paul, so I'm now gonna hv to buy some .05mm2 gauge cable. I'm surprised it isn't mentioned in retros guide, i though he had just crimped straight into the existing loom. on the plus side drove in dark for first time with new clocks! wow!! amazing difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 G-mack, you're not alone in finding it a pain in the butt job to get them in Mo big hands and small terminals don't help haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 right just had a look on VWP site and polevolt and neither stock the range of colour combos in0.5mm2. anyone know who might? or should i forget about colour coding as they will be very short runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 thanks paul, so I'm now gonna hv to buy some .05mm2 gauge cable. I'm surprised it isn't mentioned in retros guide, i though he had just crimped straight into the existing loom. on the plus side drove in dark for first time with new clocks! wow!! amazing difference. On older vehicles with wiring with the thick PVC insulation, it's very difficult to crimp these terminals properly. big hands and small terminals don't help haha I know what you mean - have a look at my post, here - http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=14892&p=802060 right just had a look on VWP site and polevolt and neither stock the range of colour combos in0.5mm2. anyone know who might? or should i forget about colour coding as they will be very short runs You won't find many suppliers who sell 0.5mm2 cable with trace colours, by the metre. The only one that I'm aware of, is Colin at Kojaycat - http://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Products/%22TW0.5mm%20Cut%20Tracer%22/SubProducts/%22TW0.5mm%20Cut%20Tracer-0014%22 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 thanks paul. i think i might just use a single colour, as they will be very short runs it won't get too confusing. he says! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Thanks paul, new connectors arrived this morning. the example you sent will help me too. mine didn't look that good on first attempt lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Crimping the terminals onto my Tdi loom was a bugger yes, but got there in the end with perseverance and a lot of fiddling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Crimping the terminals onto my Tdi loom was a bugger yes, but got there in the end with perseverance and a lot of fiddling. worth the hassle though! I'm loving the new clocks! definitely best mod I've done, and its not finished yet either! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Ok, is the odometer not supposed to be green? If so how do I get it green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The odometer is lit by two surface mount LED's soldered directly to the PCB inside the speedo, I doubt anything is wrong with those. It's hard to tell from the photo but it looks like you aren't getting any light from those LED's so I'd say you have a wiring issue. EDIT: I'd check Pin 10 of connector A is getting +12v when ignition is turned on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Doh!!!!!!! Homer Simpson moment!!!!! Cwazy you were 100% correct about no power to 10 (ign live). Solved it by erm..... Turning the key!!!!! Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 ROFL That has made my morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Right having totally botched my first attempt, this time I followed Paul's instructions for crimping and did it properly. Every one of them glided into place perfectly! Now I have new problem. When I push the connector half way in all the lights work fine. Once connector is pushed all the way in there is nothing! I guess it's loosing connection somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 success!! all in and working!! haven't wired up low fuel light yet and also getting abs light on when handbrake is on! what a massive improvement very worth while mod!. big thanks to retroanacona for his guide paulMc for all his help on the connector side of things and cwazywabbit for sorting the mileage on the speedo!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Excellent How did you solve your problem with intermittent connection on the instrument warning lights ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I used the ABS light for my hand brake on warning too, = 'and brake stupid = ABS & left the red brake warning light for the PDWA & low brake fluid warning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Looks good, congrats on getting it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Ralph - loving the 'And Brake Stupid meaning for the ABS warning light! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mack Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Excellent How did you solve your problem with intermittent connection on the instrument warning lights ? the earth pin was slightly out of line so just carefully straightened it with pliers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG_TOM Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Hi Chaps im building a hybrid buggy using a rover 3.9 running gear including transfer box, can i run a td5 speedo and transducer in the factory standard landrover transfer box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 if it's a LT230 transfer box YES. transducer just replaces the speedo cable with the required wiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG_TOM Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Brilliant thank you for quick reply do i need a disco or defender tranducer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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