BogMonster Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Erm ... a case of beer got my pins (had the tube for years and years), can't say any more than that really Jim you can copy away all you like. I can also provide an alternative design of the 'Grippa with all curves and stuff in the arms if desired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Its cos its last years 'must have' (along with a Hernia belt ) and your now not fashionable Nige ... not even with a fancy type of steel blade and a nice shiney galv on it ? Arse biscuit ! Back to the drawing board .... Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy511 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 What are plate and pins, would a ground anchor work on a stubble field? plate and pins are what the army use to winch stuck vehicles out with, be it a landy or a tank, you can use more the one and set them up in long line to get more anchorage. they are even designed to work in desert sand, but they take more time to deploy and alot more time to remove. ive got a golddigger plough anchor, havnt used it yet, (the 90 is work in progress). it certainly looks well made but its rather heavy! Plough type anchors will work in most situations but they need something solid below the grounds surface to dig into, they wont work in bog or sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_d Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Erm ... a case of beer got my pins (had the tube for years and years), can't say any more than that really OK, lets come at this from the other direction. What are those pins normally made/used for? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discojmz Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 OK, lets come at this from the other direction.What are those pins normally made/used for? Steve military land anchors is my guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 military land anchors is my guess! £95 a set from Anchor supplies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 What are those pins normally made/used for? Around here? Mooring narrowboats. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungletrekker Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hello, Bought an xeng anchor on monday, delivered tuesday morning and it is great! Great product, great service. rather nice deal and when used in anger last nite didnt even flinch! Oh and the new xclamps allow it to fit a treatt on the front bumper!! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 military land anchors is my guess! Correct Dad has the same anchor (which was where my tube came from) which presumably came with the pins when it was new. You could make the pins they are only mild steel and I may, ahem, have bent the odd ones now and again top tip, if you stick them through a NATO hitch and heave you can usually straighten them if you have had plenty of Weetabix IIRC they are about 20mm diameter so you could make them out of a length of 20mm bar if you put a head on one end and a point on the other. The reason the head end is a ring and not just a flat bar is so you can put another pin through it to work it loose/haul it out. I doubt it would be worth the hassle and cost of the materials to make one when you can buy an ex mil version for less than £100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemarker Type S Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Anchor supplies will also sell the pins separately- about £9 each IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 if you stick them through a NATO hitch and heave you can usually straighten them if you have had plenty of Weetabix Or Pie. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Or Pie. Each to their own for advanced in-field metallurgical adjustments Are you confessing to being a pie shifter then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbarclay Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 How long are the pins on the military anchors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I would guess about 3ft but can measure if required... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbarclay Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Approximately 3ft is accurate enough. I made up some anchor pegs out of some scrap rebar, but didn't know how the length compared to other anchor pegs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 X-Eng anchor is incredibly light but from what ive heard it does not like the rocks and is bulky to stow on the truck. Devon anchors are good but they also bend when used in rocky ground. Carls Gold digger anchor is a good piece of kit, if i bent my Scrap iorn one thats probably what i would go for. Chris is, or at least was right. At Kirton a few people were using them like stump-hooks on rocks. Can't say I blame them as in places there was nothing else to use! However - it completely changes the forces it was designed to cope with. Unfortunately - there are almost no rocks round these parts - so it never occurred to me that they might be used that way! The next batch was made with two extra folds in the anchor which roughly doubles the force required to break the blade - without adding any weight. That is the main change in the Mk2 version. On the plus side, at Kirton I saw two broken D44 anchors and one fairly bent Scorpion. There were two X-Anchors broken - both replaced free of charge - so they didn't hold up too badly against what some people consider to be the best. Golddigger's anchor is pretty good too according to people I've talked to. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 But you replaced broken ones Nick Walker bent a D44 one they sold him another(no discount) saying it was used incorrectly. Big difference in follow up service from a trader. I know where I'd shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Er ... yeah ... my Kittygripper has done a bit of depth sounding for hidden rocks too so I can confirm that it is an issue I don't think any plough anchor would take the full force of a winch on the tip of the blade and not bend/break because that isn't the way they are supposed to be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 But you replaced broken onesNick Walker bent a D44 one they sold him another(no discount) saying it was used incorrectly. Big difference in follow up service from a trader. I know where I'd shop. Er...Um yes er Quite.... Refuted Claim Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I had forgotten about that Anybody got a spare 6mm spade lying around they don't want? I like the look of the Mk3 X-Anchor, just been looking at Si's website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Still waiting for a replacement 6mm blade..... Poor Service from Kitty Gripper... But I do believe they are no longer in production due to supply problems/labour shortages.........the main arm used as a shed door hold opener device as its no use for owt else without a spade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Yes come on Barker pull yer ruddy finger out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1970 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 I got myself a pin and plate one from anchor supplies. I used it a few days ago and would highly recommend them, there an excellent piece of kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West4x4 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Try a local marqueee company for the pin and plate types. The one i work for uses them for our large pole tents alternativly i'm sure if you could get the pins then a plate could be made up easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Its cos its last years 'must have' (along with a Hernia belt ) and your now not fashionable Nige I don't care still use mine with pride . Alot easy and works a hell of alot better in sand than aload of stakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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