Turbocharger Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 How does everyone fill up their axle oils? I don't change them as often as I should because it's a job I hate, I always end up covered in smelly gear oil. I've tried: siphoning the oil (tastes bad) a 500ml Clarke syringe (leaks out the bottom and back down my arm eventually) squeezy 500ml bottles with a spout on (best option so far but refilling always makes a mess) Today I had a play with an idea that's been forming in my head. Two holes in the bottle's lid, one with a tight-fitting pipe which runs from the bottom of the bottle to the axle, and one which takes a compressed air supply. I used water to test the principle. The Mk1 edition gave me a short lesson in how to cover every surface of my garage in water, and an indication that old antifreeze bottles won't hold 8 bar. The introduced me to the pressure regulator on my compressor, and successfully piddled water out of the tube at a good rate with 0.5 bar into the bottle, so I put the same cap onto the EP90 bottle and pumped oil into my back axle. Unfortunately this time I'd neglected the viscosity of gear oil, and it would have taken hours so I reverted to the 500ml squeezy bottle (and now I smell of sulphur again).I plan to try a bigger diameter pipe for my pressurised oil cannon (I'm wary of using a higher pressure with the smelly oil) but how are other people managing to put more oil into their diffs than their drain covers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Turbo, I use a big syringe job but luckily it doesn't leak and run down my arm Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I just use an air-pressurised weed-sprayer, it's even been modified to take a tyre valve for those really lazy days. Something like this Fill it up with oil, pressurise it, stick the trigger-controller tube in the 'ole, and off you go! the only drip to watch for is when it's full. Can't claim the idea for my own, I 'borrowed' it from Roger Barton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I get somebody else to do it, never got any on me yet The 1L bottles of EPX80w90 we sell at work have a pull out spout on them as you described, if you get a couple of feet of clear plastic tubing that is a tight fit on the end of the spout, you can hold the bottle upside down and stuff the tube in the hole which avoids much spillage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diff Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Same as Luke, Cheap old garden sprayer for me. Unscrew the spray nozzle from the wand, oil in the drum, a few pumps to pump up some pressure in the drum, pull the trigger - oil flows, let go the trigger - oil stops. Piece of cake, no fuss no mess, and all the components of the sprayer are designed for nasty chemicals, so it lasts for years and years with no deterioration. Regards, Diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Neale Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I've got an oil dispenser for gear oil - picked up at a Sortout a good few years ago. It's a proper heavyweight cast thing with a decent winding handle on the side and a long dispensing hose - I would guess it dates back to the 50's.... As for light oils like MTF, I use a hoselock garden sprayer. Both make light work of filing the boxes and you don't get oil everywhere either. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrfarmer Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 hi I use an old water type fire extigsher with a tyre valve in the top takes about 4lt of ep90 it will fill the TB up in about 5seconds, but it will over fill it in 6seconds the only problem is that front hubs have too small a hole for filling but can be got in if i'm carefull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 John , I bought me one of these http://www.fluiddefense.com/Store/images/i...m/102000-03.jpg They are a bit pricey but of all the oil pumps I have owned this one is the Rolls royce version , You should of asked me on sat ,you could of borrowed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I bought an oil safe pump from difflock about 6 years ago at Billing.. it was expensive to buy, but it's been really good and is easy to fill up axles etc with no spills. oil safe pump kit Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsr341 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 same as above , use an oil safe pump , had mine for free but would have bought one , what it costs will be made back in time and less mess , once youve used one you will forget how much it cost and what a great investment it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 Cheers Jase - but I'd have kept it for two months Looks like the weed-killer type is popular above the 'proper job', but hopefully with my version I can switch between fluids by just swapping the cap across different types of bottle (or at worst, drilling a few holes). I'll persevere with a large bore pipe and see how I get on. (Then I'll buy a weed sprayer or proper oil pump) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty_wingnut Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 gearbox - remove rubber around gearstick, feed in tube and place in gearbox filler hole. other end place funnel and fill with oil. easy and clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noggy Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 i liked your mk2 oil despenser... surely if you warmed up the oil it would be thinner so you could use it with ease? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 I didn't fancy the potential to cover myself with hot EP90 at 8 bar! A bigger pipe is certainly the next sensible step - the one in the video above is only 5mm ID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Plant sprayer, Lidl do them on offer sometimes - I bought three last time round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemarker Type S Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 High pressure Waxoyl can and sprayer works for me... obviously clean out the waxoyl from the can first! Fill with EP90 and pump the can up. Remove the spray nozzle from the wand and job done- it even fits into the holes to fill the front swivels. Not the fastet way but you stay nice and clean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techtone Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 A Funnel A length of hose pipe A drip tray A bungee Time Fit the funnel in the hose pipe, hose pipe in the oil level plug with drip tray underneath (be it axle, gearbox or T Case), Bungee to hang the funnel off the car (roll cage, winch etc) pour oil into the funnel and wait, top up funnel and wait, top up funnel again and wait until the oil dribbles out... you get the idea. It may be slow but its cheap and easy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 Techtone - your method is simple and cheap but has a problem in common with several of the ones above - once you've noticed that the axle's full, you've still got a funnel and pipe's worth of oil on their way in on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soutie Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I have the Lidl pump sprayer versions. One for EP 90 and one for ATF. I have found a use for the new type plastic corks. Have drilled a hole into two of them and use them to keep the end of the sprayers clean and free from dirt. Lidl has currently got the pumps at £8.99 each. Price has gone up from about the £5 mark as they now have a pressure gauge on them. The more common white household sprayer retails at about £20 at B&Q etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techtone Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Techtone - your method is simple and cheap but has a problem in common with several of the ones above - once you've noticed that the axle's full, you've still got a funnel and pipe's worth of oil on their way in on top. Option 1 : You pull the pipe out... ... wait for it... put your finger over the end.. .... wait for it .... put it back in the oil drum.. . or Option 2 : if you can' be bothered leave it to drain into the drip tray and waste about 20p worth of oil! Either way there is no drama! Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 once you've noticed that the axle's full, you've still got a funnel and pipe's worth of oil on their way in on top. Garden sprayer has a valve a few inches from the end of the pipe so there is little or no loss. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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