Snagger Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Grem and I did essentially the same thing - the bolt-on bracket from a 300Tdi+ axle and the hubs from an early 90/110 axle. I detailled the conversion in the axles section of my blog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 dragging this out of hibernation -----------aimed at those of you who have done this conversion ----did you have to change any brake pipes or end fittings to fit brake pipe to the rear calipers ?? I've just got my rear discs [not britpart] & the rest of the parts STC1268 x2 caliper bracketsSTC1268 RH caliperSTC1269 LH caliperNTC7964 RH brake pipeANR2779 LH brake pipeNTC8242 plastic pipe clips (x4)NTC8242 metal “P” clip (for brake pipe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 The brake pipes on my rear axle are home made using copper/nikkel piping and the right (metric) unions. As far as I can remember I've used the same pipes as the ones already fitted to the drum brake cylinders. With standard pipes you might not be able to reuse the old ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Not touched the pipes yet on mine. FWIW, i have used FTC1740 stub axles, with standard metric hubs (they're all the same front/rear), bolt on caliper brackets, standard 90 front brake disks (same PN as 110 rears), and the original drive shafts but with the flanges swapped for metric ones. You shouldnt need any spacers if you use the correct FTC1740 stub and the metric hub. The FTC1740 hub appears different on the inner face to the front hubs: FTC3188 (metric front) looks like this: http://www.brookwell.co.uk/wp-content/themes/brookwell/getimg.php?p=FTC3188&q=pi FTC1740 looks like this: http://www.ribblevalley4x4.com/user/products/allmakes/FTC1740.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdderlyOffroad Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Ralph, That’s one of my (many) jobs this weekend – piping up the rear axle. When I looked a while back, I couldn’t find brake pipes for sensible money given the above part numbers – so am going to make my own using rubber-line ‘P’ clips to clip them to the axle. The original drum-brake pipes on mine were a rusty mess, but either way I doubt they would reach (or allow themselves to be tweaked far enough) to the correct location for the callipers. Easier just to pipe up with new pipe and fittings. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) pretty sure I have both types of stub axle & a pair of front hubs to use. on the brake pipe, can you confirm the pipe bore size is it 3/16 ?? I haven't got any spare brake pipe in my garage so need to go buy some & end fittings, I've got a flaring kit to hand. Edited March 22, 2013 by western Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 anybody know or able to confirm the brake pipe bore size please, ???? I want to buy some & metric end fittings tommorrw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 The pipe that came off mine certainly looked like 3/16, and i believe thats whats used on most vehicles for brake pipe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 great thanks, I can get some tomorrow, plus some more bolts/nuts I forgot to get today. As we all like shiney new parts here is my rear disc brake conversion kit, I have the mudshield which will be fitted too. also have a new pair of front vented disc & pads to go on, [already have vented calipers/disc up front, disc need replacing] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdderlyOffroad Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I've certainly bought 3/16" brake pipe! And M10 x 1 fittings, which screw happily into my calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Super job, thanks very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 got some brake pipe & end fittings,waiting on some bolts, then I can get the conversion fitted.Also e.mailed Zeus at Dunkeswell for a price of their stainless steel caliper piston kit, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Also e.mailed Zeus at Dunkeswell for a price of their stainless steel caliper piston kit, could you tell/PM me the price please. my front calipers and seized solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 could you tell/PM me the price please. my front calipers and seized solid. Yep, hopefully I'll have a reply tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehaze Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Keep the pics coming - I'm still looking out for the brackets and hubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 mine are 110 front hubs,should be easy enough to obtain a pair. bracketsI bought years ago [march '99] still got the reciept. got them from W.E.Phillips engineering, Coalport,Telford, they are still operating according to http://www.westmidlands-businessdirectory.com/company-w-e-phillips-engineering_53143 might be worth a phonecall, doesn't look like they have a wedsite or email address.. LRSeries have the brackets listed FRC3306 http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/14700/FTC3306-HD-REAR-AXLE-CALIPER-MOUNTING.html?search=ftc3306&page=1 Brit-car http://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.php?xProd=86527 Paddocks http://www.paddockspares.com/ftc3306-mounting-bracket.html Craddocks http://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/land-rover-defender/defender-90-and-110/parts/brakes/ftc3306-bracket-for-rear-caliper-110.html Blanchards http://pablanchard.co.uk/product.asp?productID=9009 LR Direct http://www.lrdirect.com/FTC3306-Brake-Calmper-Bracket-90/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Are you using the proper (late) hubs (FTC942) or the early ones and adding the spacer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 which spacer ? these hubs have the Key type lock washer, but my existing rear stub axles are the D shaped lock washer type. I have the stubs they were originally fited to as well. I'm using the caliper brackets, mudshield & brackets too. hub photo's below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehaze Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Thanks Western, Once I've picked up the hubs, I'll buy a new pair of brackets if I've not sourced any. I think there is a breakers around here, so I'll try them. Are you using standard front calipers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 nope, I'm fitting new 110 rear calipers, they only have 2 pistons each, STC1265 http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/11668/SMC500240-BRAKE-CALIPER-REAR-LH.html?search=stc1265&page=1 & STC1266 http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/11670/SEB500460-BRAKE-CALIPER-FRONT-RH.html?search=stc1266&page=1 IIRC mine came from Ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehaze Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I've been offered a set of 4pot calipers off a disco. I was hoping to put them on the front axle and move the fronts to the rear. It's a 110 - is this possible? or is it too much of a mis-match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehaze Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 The disco calipers are off a 300tdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 don't need 4 pot calipers on the rear. leave them up front, with 4 pot allround it'll be way over braked & they probably won't fit on the rears, pistons are the same 46mm dia in the rear 2 pot calipers, you don't want or need the rear brakes locking up first. the calipers I'm using/links above are same as on the 300tdi & later defenders, RRC rears & IIRC Disco rears post 1991 can be used too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Your 110 fronts are already 4-pot. Personally I'd stick to what Land Rover designed, with 2-pot at the rear. But I think in theory you could do it. As far as I'm aware, Disco rear calipers are the same as 90 rear ones. So they won't fit a 110 rear as the discs are a different size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehaze Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 My bad - the disco ones I've been offered are front ones. Having never checked my front calipers I assumed they were 2pot as it's a 1988 model. Best laid plans....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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