Paul90 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I'd just like to say that I hate them That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I took the easy but not cheapest option, and bought a new housing with joint fitted............. http://www.gwynlewis4x4.co.uk/page82.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 ^^^Thats what i'll do when mine needs changing. They are greasable and adjustable IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litch Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I bought & fitted a Bearmach adjustable one for my 90 9-years ago, fitted it in my garage (without the need for a press) and it still hasn't needed adjusting! Top piece of kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB Serenity Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 While we are on the subject, can someone explain to me what exactly the A-Frame ball joint does and what it is I'm looking at in the top picture. Is it hard to change the ball joint or the housing and joint together and do you need any special tools? Many thanks John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 It holds the back axle in place. Not too tricky to change so long as you have a vice, a hacksaw and a large hammer. The trick to getting it out is to cut the 'ears' off the joint, place the ears of the housing across the vice and get busy with the hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 The ball joint holds the rear axle in two planes: it stops it rotating in the directions the wheels turn - and also stops it moving side to side. The large housing in the top picture mounts to the chassis with two arms - forming an 'A' shape (thus the A Frame ball joint name) - the hole you see is where the actual ball joint mounts which bolts to the axle. The ball joints are notoriously difficult to remove from the housing without a serious press - thus the attraction of the Gwyn Lewis option. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Hammer is more often the only way out, but flap wheel, copper ease and a press are (IMHO) the only way back in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB Serenity Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Many thanks chaps, good stuff as always. I think I'll have a look at mine at the weekend, now I know what I'm looking for. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Many thanks chaps, good stuff as always. I think I'll have a look at mine at the weekend, now I know what I'm looking for. Cheers Can be the cause of bangs as you pull away if its on its way out. Take a bar to it and see it there is any play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB Serenity Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 thanks reb, I don't have a problem at the moment but have seen a lot on here about needing to change the a-frame ball joint so I thought I'd ask while the topic was up. how do I tell play from any movement it is supposed to have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 If you think of it as a ball and socket joint - the ball should move easily in the socket - but should be a snug fit with no play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS888 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I'd just like to say that I hate them That is all. Sometimes it helps just to vent, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantd5 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I did some "bashings", hammering and a wrong move by the hammer landed on me little finger!! I will definitely invest in a 10 tonnes press!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato head Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I used a 20 tonne press on mine and that struggled like hell ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantd5 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I used a 20 tonne press on mine and that struggled like hell ! You mean a-20- tonne press could not knock it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam300Tdi90 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I put a constant 15 tonnes on my ball joint when changing it, it wouldn't budge. So it tapped the housing with a hammer while in the press, and all hell broke loose.... came out tho, but be careful, it also nearly lodged in my head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Barrett Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 It just cost me £70 to drop off the old bracket/balljoint at Shardlow LR and have them supply and fit a new balljoint in. Sounds like money well spent and they did it the same day so its all painted up ready to be refitted next week. It was a pig to get the old taper joint out of the diff casing. I ended upside down with a crowbar being levered with my feet while I hammered the taper housing to spring it out. I was just about ready to give up - having had the crowbar try to spear me half a dozen times - when it just popped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAttrill Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 We have a 15ton press at work and that always seems to manage. Even then, not my favourite job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantd5 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 This will be my next project and I am getting quite nervy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB Serenity Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I think if I have to replace mine at some point in the future I'll replace the housing at the same time. I'm not sure what a 15 tonne press is but it sounds like some industrial equipment I don't even own a vice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 A bloody 'orrible job to do ! But to be a proper Landy owner you have to do it at least once with a big hammer Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Mo, having done that yourself makes you a masochist - encouraging us to do it is sadism :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I'll just go and get me gear on ... Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 A blow torch on the housing helps but the rubber and grease smells real bad. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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