white90 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I had some dodery old fool reverse into the 90 today then proceed to push it along the road for 6ft whilst I was in a shop watching now luckily his trailer hit the spare wheel on the back door. the spare wheel carrier is a little distorted but only a little. should I make him buy me a new one /go through his insurance or let the old git get off scot free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 stars and traders sections are for other sites IMHOas this site is independent with no paymasters to suck up to. that's why the system i outlined above works so well- no traders actually pay for the site people blatantly advertising their wares isn't on either.the deleted section of his website is loaded with freeloaders trying to do you all favours so to speak. David does offer a discount as do a fair few other traders. but there is nothing on here to stop people telling the truth abount shoddy service/crappy products that's what makes it different. The system as used by LS1 tech positively encourage feedback of all types which i think is just great. Done right, there is no reason why this site wouldn't prosper and benefit from increased trader participation without losing it's ethos or raison d'etre into the bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 If you feel it needs replacing then I'd personally give him the choice and let him decide. I assume from your post you feel it was a genuine mistake, if so and you can live with wheel carrier then yes in your shoes i'd probably let it go too. Although if damaged carrier is spoiling your otherwise pristine 90 then change it out! ;) Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Claim whiplash, sue him for thousands and go mog axles, 4 link and 40's for this years Mike Wolfe Memorial Alternatively, let him off with it, he doesnt need the stress and neither do you, just get his details in case the damage is worse than you thought at first Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Depends on the damage, if it's bent the door (popular) then you want to check the glass & frame as if that's bent it could go "pop" next time you slam it hard, not very convenient I'd get his details and say you're happy to get the price of a new door & glass and a tin of paint from him (which will be muchos cheaper than any insurance claim) I can't see him grumbling too much. Might even find a good door on eBlag for a few quid. That said, muppets crashing into me paid for the first V8 in the 109 and (a tragically small) part of the deposit for my house so I've done alright, but both times I actually did get whiplash and didn't go out of the way to extract big money / act more inured than I actually was. And both times the guilty parties were real idiots who I didn't feel any sympathy towards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I'd ask him to either stump up for a new spare wheel carrier. If you go through insurance it won't do your NCB much good & then there's the excess to think of. As wheel carriers are not that expensive it hardly seems worth making a claim. Incidentally my Defender was reversed into by a doddery old git the other weekend! The guy had a huge Merc and could barely see over the steering wheel! He had two wheels on the pavement from having reversed at a strange angle and then over straightened. He hit the car in front and then confidently reversed into my front bumper! There are a couple of streaks of Merc paint here and there on my bumper but nothing to bother about! The back of his Merc had loads of dents on it - I suspect he may park by ear! What does bother me though, is that this guy might cause a serious accident! I really feel that it is time for him to hang up his driving gloves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 If you go through insurance it won't do your NCB much good & then there's the excess to think of. It's his fault, you'd claim on HIS insurance not yours so it wouldn't affect Tony's NCB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 glass & frame as if that's bent How do you bend laminated glass? Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 It's his fault, you'd claim on HIS insurance not yours so it wouldn't affect Tony's NCB. dont believe it John, insurers wont necessarily care whos fault it is, they just want to know if you were involved in an accident. its really common on bike insurance to get hammered for 5 years because a nob knocked you off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petergg Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I would ask him for £50.00 also ask him to pay for the damage you done to your front wings Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 well your entitled to your opinion of course. this site doesn't need traders to support it the members own it and thats the way it was intended. just peruse the other 4x4 sites to see how bad things get when paymasters/sponsors get into the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 There are plenty of people 'in the trade' on here, who offer advice, and also alert the forum community of new products etc. quite often there's healthy debate on such products, and why shouldn't there be. the names that come to mind offer discount, so it works both ways. I don't see how it can damage the forum, the tradesmen post of their own free will. Whether they're members or not doesn't affect any legal position of the forum with regards to libel/slander/whichever one it is, in fact a few companies have used the forum to respond to complaints in a way satisfactory for all. companys get free advertising, they offer discounts. they have no input (above that of a normal member) into the forum. I see no reason for them to be 'paymasters' or 'sponsors' I would have thought including traders, talking to them and agreeing on an amicable solution is better than just getting rid of them. I for one partly visit this forum because i know Mr Ashcroft, Si, David, Jim, chris (trigger wheels) etc post here. it seperates this forum from the many others. that's something to be proud of i would have thought, not shy away from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 As I said I was in a shop looking out when I watched him do it. I went out and approached him. and I quote: Me:Not much good at reversing are you reply:no not really me well you've managed to hit it and push it 6ft up the road him: I couldn't see out of the windows me: well give me your details I'll be in touch. him:ok hands over name and contact number. I leave. the Mantec wheel carrier is bent a bit towards the door at the bottom. it won't win the concours now will it miffed a bit but hence my post requesting opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 traders and all are welcome as is anyone but if they set about a free advertising campaign on the back of the members investment in this site that is spamming. no one is put off joining/entering all forms of forum life, but if they start to pay for advertising this site heads down the road of so many others. the traders that are here some offer discounts some offer advice both are great fully received, but they are given/taken with no additional offers of free advertising/forum association. what makes this place what it is are these guidelines, that the way it was founded and the principles for it to run on. If you only visit because of a few traders post here you'll be missing a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petergg Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Very sad news. I echo "Thoughts go out to those involved and their family". did he leave wife/kids? and if so; is there a whip-round for him? does anyone know the site/organiser? not knowing the site cant comment on rules and regs or if marshalled or not but would be useful to know if harness and roll cage were fitted and being used. I will now get one! and a harness. Very sad news indeed. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 How do you bend laminated glass?Les. You would be surprised - Paul C's rear door / window had a huge bend in it a while back that seemed to defy the laws of physics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark green 90 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 If he cant see, he cant drive make him pay, he would if you hit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Thanks for the various inputs I think I'll let it go after all what goes around may come around one day. stupid old duffer could do without the stress I'd guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Tony, depending on the damage give him the option to pay £50 if there's any real damage. Insurance might not be worth it as the chaps excess won't be less than £50 and, depending on your insurance comapny, you may loose your NCB. Something along these lines happened to me a few months ago. I was in convoy with a guy I know and he pulls into a parking space, I pull in along side and, as I do, matey's passenger opens the door, I swerve a little but not enough and door hits the side of my wing and it gets dragged open. Damage to Navara is a new door, damage to Landy is a small dent in the wing. As I don't like to see matey out of pocket for what was a genuine mistake I say I'll make a contribution and give him the number of a few of the big breakers which are likely to have doors of the right colour in stock. I hear nothing for a fortnight then I get a call saying the bill was £780 (new door, spray job labour etc) and how would I like to pay as he believed I should pay it all. I suggested he go away and think about it again and I kindly pointed out that hitting the side of my vehicle made it equal blame at best, he'd ignored my advice and the bill was more than twice the size of what it should be and that his passengers should look before they open doors. It fell onto deaf ears and then the guy had the cheak to give me a call a few weeks ago and ask for a favour to help find an engine. Total k^*b!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 A shame. I have a mate who hails from nearby. He said a similar fate was suffered there about 10 years ago. Chap in a lightweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Now look here - sonny If you hadn't put your gas-guzzling 4x4 in the way of where I might have gone, had I had my hearing aid, bottle top glasses on - you wouldn't have reversed into me. I didn't fight in three world wars (in a Land Rover), for the likes of you young (Welsh) whipper-snappers to go telling me what I can and can't do. When I was a lad we could go to the pictures, buy a new raincoat and a pair of boots, gets the bus home, and still have enough change for fish and chips, you lot don't know what it was like in them days - eating lard and stale bread every day, etc etc (cue MOG) Yer bluddy grandad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Safety issues seem to be commented on more and more lately. There will always be accidents, regardless of precautions taken. Unfortunately there are those that don't see it as an 'occupational hazard', but rather as a means of stopping what a lot of us enjoy. Sit on the sofa, watch the news, don't complain about anything, don't do anything that might be percieved as dangerous, big brother will hold your hand............... Edit - see what I mean - Fiona is reading this right now! Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Well I called him he apologised again I told him to forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeryDisco Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I don't get that - straight over my head - sorry Les! I lived in Bromsgrove for 20 odd years, So I'm a little concerned I might know the guys who were involved. [mother mode] Kids - don't off road until you've had some instruction off someone who knows what they're doing. And for god's sake wear your belt - it's fitted for a reason! [/mother mode] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 stupid old duffer could do without the stress I'd guess. Don't be like that TC Your not that old Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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