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ARB "Woes" and Issues - Check yours next time its out !


Hybrid_From_Hell

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Oh Dear

Megasquirt Mansions :P had a ARB "Dropped in" for peggin' n Fixin' n Rebuild, but its

turned into a hammer house of horrors unit :(

There are on this diff some often seen issues - worn bearings and seal dribbling, and the actual drive flange scored, all of these things

are "Normal Wear" and are seen all the time, what this post is about are the things that go wrong with an ARB (RD56 unit in this case) as

its interesting that just about all of the things that can go wrong have.

So, the casing - SCRAP

Casing has been playing lathe with a loose bolt or 3 (customer did see these) these bolts have come loose

and whizzed around, nmachining the casing into - er well scrap really :(

Pics - notice the "Good" and the "Oooo Bugger Lathed" sides :D

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Ok, not a huge problem, new case is in order :)

Moving on the crown wheel was checked - yup theres wear, but worse is that part of the "Lathework" prob got into the CWP mesh

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"Bugger - but that still not a prob - have those too ........

The bolts being loose have so far wrecked the casing, and the CW&P, but the loose bolts means the CW can "Chat"

and rattle back and forth, causing "Ovality" in the flange (about £75 ) additionally this movement has made the bearing turn on the

end of the flange so it now falls off ! - it should be a F Tight press fit - there is a way to get over this but....

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This has been going on for some while, as such its not just the flange thats gone, its ovaled the holes in the actual diff casing centre itself :(

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Worse news is these are around £180 and I don't think there are any in the country ...

Oh - and the plastic xcage is cracked too, and the diff centre has worn where the CW sits and is now a loose fit, not a tight fit.

Difficult to tell, but looks as though the diff ovality is older, and someone has tried (fail :lol: ) by using the wrong washer (used antirattle washers)

to try to stop movement, you can see the "Slots" marks on the flange, this is not the same as the later flanged bolts and it may

be that this diff was dmaged a bit, badly put together, with a bodgeroo or 3 and has just fallen aprt

Its fixable - but at what cost ? - Even the 2 x ARB bits are £255 on a old ARB .....and all becuase the bolts were not done properly - I say

this as if the bolts are in GOOD condition or new, the parts absolutely clean as clean, PROPER screw thread lock compound used and PROPERLY

torqued up very few come undone, in fact done properly the bolts can be a nightmare to get out !!

All this damage is from loose bolts - so next time you have you ARB out CHECK THEM - you have been warned :(

In the meantime we have to work out a financially sane way of repairing this ................

Nige :(

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Very interesting!

As an aside, should this thread be more accurately titled " Poor diff assembly technique woes - the perils of bodging stuff when you don't know what you're doing" ?

As it is it the title suggests a sleight on ARB build quality in general. The problems described could apply to any poorly assembled differential and are surely not a generic symptom suffered by ARB units.

Tiddler

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I dont think it neccesarrily is bad assembly, Mine (and many others) have come undone in the past despite maintaining the correct torques. Out of interest what is the threadsize used in the crownwheel of this diff?

Daan

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