Bluemoon Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Do I need the water pump gasket for a 300tdi, or can I use a silicone sealant gasket ,(any recommendations), or do I just use a cereal box. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 you could probably get away with sealant but it should really have a gasket -- this one ERR3284 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydie Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Gasket material and a set of wad punches are quite okay using the pump base as a template - I've formed up several "spares" this way, the rat (notice here I'm very PC) in the woodpile is the metal pressed "P" gasket behind the pump and the clinder block. As you have to loosen the bolts that hold this in place to replace the water pump gasket you would be unwise not to also replace it at the same time - and it only takes an additional 15 minutes to do so and you can check out the cylinder block welsh plug at the same time to see how it is faring. Incidentally I smear this gasket with liquid "Rolls Royce' air craft gasket goo to ensure it stays sealed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yes use a gasket. I have two lying about here, Want one ??? Weetabix packets are better than other breakfast food boxes for gaskets as they're slightly greasy where the others are dry Always use a paper or card gasket, use grease both sides of the gasket, easier to take off if you have to replace things again. To me any gasket glue on a gasket means a botched job where the person fitting the parts doesn't know how to ?? Ian Why are wad punches necessary. I've found a ball toffee hammer or the ring end of a combination suitable to do the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPendrey Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I fitted mine about 2 years ago without a gasket, instead I used Granville's Instant Gasket. It has worked fine ever since, although I did have to push out the pulley using a couple of washers to realign the aux belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I fitted mine about 2 years ago without a gasket, instead I used Granville's Instant Gasket. It has worked fine ever since, although I did have to push out the pulley using a couple of washers to realign the aux belt. Now don't complain when you spend an hour or more trying to clean the mating faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 gasket sealant of any sort is the work of the devil. Use a gasket with a smear of grease. Not got a gasket? Order 5 and it'll still cost more to post than the actual gasket and you'll have one next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 gasket sealant of any sort is the work of the devil. Use a gasket with a smear of grease. Not got a gasket? Order 5 and it'll still cost more to post than the actual gasket and you'll have one next time. Its the bushtucker man's dream... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I find the silicone gasket stuff comes off way more easily than paper gaskets, and go wrong less often... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I find the silicone gasket stuff comes off way more easily than paper gaskets, and go wrong less often... Yes. I find this too. The silicone gaskets just peel off. The paper ones just seem to stick and you risk damaging soft aluminium casings when removing them with a scraper or the like (perhaps more grease required when using them?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Silicone has it's uses where you have very old and slightly pitted or worn mating surfaces. I tend to use it for that reason. But in theory yes one should need only use either a gasket or sealant, depending on the application. A gasket in this case. It's worth pointing out that a proper Land Rover gasket (or one made out of proper gasket material) is a lot better than the Britpart el-cheapo ones that are but a few microns thick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 It's worth pointing out that a proper Land Rover gasket (or one made out of proper gasket material) is a lot better than the Britpart el-cheapo ones that are but a few microns thick! Now I'll disagree on that. The drive flange gaskets that I have from Britpart are a lot thicker than the paper thin ones for Land Rover Genuine Parts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Interesting that you've found that Mike. The Britpart drive flange gaskets I've had were beige in colour and no thicker than thick copy paper, whereas the genuine LR ones were green and at least cereal box thickness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I've not seen a drive flange gasket other than beige.....Are the dealers I'm buying from selling Britpart at Land Rover prices ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPendrey Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Well, I realise we're drifting off topic a little, but I had a couple of different gaskets in the garage and I remember thinking when I got them how different they were... So, attached are four pics... a Britpart hub gasket (0.36mm) a Bearmach hub gasket (0.19mm) ...and for nothing other than curiosity... an after-market 300TDI water pup gasket (keeping this on topic!) (0.76mm) a Delphi fuel lift pump gasket (0.53mm) Now, I still wonder why I needed two washers per pulley bolt to compensate for not having that 0.76mm gasket behind the pump?! Maybe I should go and measure the washers :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big.Mike Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Gasket material and a set of wad punches are quite okay using the pump base as a template - I've formed up several "spares" this way, the rat (notice here I'm very PC) in the woodpile is the metal pressed "P" gasket behind the pump and the cylinder block. Sorry to pull up an old thread, just wondering what part number the metal "P" gasket is? Cheers, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big.Mike Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Gasket material and a set of wad punches are quite okay using the pump base as a template - I've formed up several "spares" this way, the rat (notice here I'm very PC) in the woodpile is the metal pressed "P" gasket behind the pump and the clinder block. As you have to loosen the bolts that hold this in place to replace the water pump gasket you would be unwise not to also replace it at the same time - and it only takes an additional 15 minutes to do so and you can check out the cylinder block welsh plug at the same time to see how it is faring. Incidentally I smear this gasket with liquid "Rolls Royce' air craft gasket goo to ensure it stays sealed To take my previous question a little further; is it really worth changing the metal gasket? Boydie, I know you've said it's 15 minutes extra work, but these things do have a tendency to go a bit awry. I need to change the pump as the bearing is squeaking like a mouse on steroids! Just to be clear this is my only means of transport... Can anyone give me a list of all of the tools and parts I might need to do this one? Your help and advice really would be appreciated. Cheers, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bob Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 There's a thread in the technical archive that details its replacement... Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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