yogibear47.lee Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 hi all, i have two question for you, 1. if i buy a locker does it come as a straight swap or do i need to get it fitted in my diff casing? 2. if i buy a rear locker will i need to upgrade the front at the same time or will standard stuff be ok? cheers lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 If you buy just a locker, it will come as the diff centre only. You will need to transfer the crown wheel from your existing diff, then fit the centre and crown wheel in to your diff housing, set the backlash etc. Many people offer this as a service, you could speak to Nige (HybridFromHell). What do you use the vehicle for? You don't have to change anything, but once you have a locker you will be able to deliver enough torque to a rear shaft to twist/break it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear47.lee Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 ok cheers for the first answer. i use the truck mainly for off road use and road use mainly getting to and from play site and little greenlane, i was going to change the rear shaft when i get a locker i was more worried about if i needed to upgrade the front cv and shafts too. wont be for a while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Standard stuff will be fine in the front depending on your driving style. Same goes for rear shafts with a locker. Just because you have a locker doesn't mean you will automatically start breaking shafts. Probably going to jinx it, but I have a rear locker and standard shafts. They do just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 The weight of your right foot will determine the likelihood of you breaking axle components, not just the locker itself. In some situations a locker enables you to be more gentle as there is less need to use momentum to cross obstacles. For example in a cross-axle you can use a lower speed as you will have more traction. Obviously there will be more stress on the loaded shaft, but this is where the lighter right foot comes into it and the benefit of the traction is felt. There will be other situations where a locker puts more strain on the shafts, of course. Personally, I'd fit the locker and then upgrade to HD shafts when you break one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear47.lee Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 ok cheers, i was going to go for the detroit locker when i have some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road Toad Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 If you get a Detroit then get the diff pegged and get good shafts! They are brutal on the drive train, very 'grabby'. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 To add Why a Detroit and not a ash locker Hugely superior in quality ability and after sales service Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear47.lee Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 To add Why a Detroit and not a ash locker Hugely superior in quality ability and after sales service Nige its more a fit and forget, you got have to remember to turn the air on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road Toad Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 You also need to remember to stay awake on the road with a Detroit because without warning it'll throw you into a hedge or ditch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 You also need to remember to stay awake on the road with a Detroit because without warning it'll throw you into a hedge or ditch! it is a thing of beauty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hedge or Detroit ? Personally I think they are horrible, neanderthal things, and their after sales service is truly appalling if you need spares Suprised they still sell new when there is so much better about now Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I quite liked the detriot i had in my rangerover. but i had mine in a salisbury, which i believe is a different type to the ones for rover axle. I think the packaging on mine called it a detroit no-spin. I found it to be perfect absolutly transprarent on the road and full traction off road, but i only did a short test drive in mine 5,500 miles in 3 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Did you take it to they factory to show the ?? Fair test drive ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear47.lee Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 You also need to remember to stay awake on the road with a Detroit because without warning it'll throw you into a hedge or ditch! not good so whats every one recomand, dont want to spend the earth on one and its for a disco 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I have done a few test drives in mine, including the one that dirtydiesel did. These days I just ignore what people say about them, even you Nigel! To be fair, the car is understeered with the power on, but I am completely used to it now. Interestingly, although people say a detroit locker in the back makes the car understeered, this is not the case; It is the Detroit true trac in the front that does this. When I once removed the front prop, you dont notice anything, as Dan says you would never know it is there. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 DD even tested his towing on the autobahn with 3 wheels, it was very impressive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantastic Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I have a detroit locker in the back of the 110 - Salisbury axle. Completely transparent on the road and excellent off. There is a new version out now that is better. In the year or so I've had it fitted I have not once had the famous Detroit bang. The price of it plus the super simple install makes it a no-brainer in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road Toad Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Sounds like they've put some revisions in to their lockers for the better. At one point they were dropped by most of the trade here because of an attitude problem when it came to warranty. hope this is sorted too. but now the uk distributor is $4itpart then who knows? !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Detroits are good, stong, ashlockers IMHO are better For the flick of a switch you can decide not the locker In hands down competition a Ashlocker beats it on every count apart from being auto, more expensive and needing an air supply and time to fit The above it yes a tad liong but honest If you can afford the extra, fit it time wise, I still say Ashlocker is the best value for money If you can't then a detroit is not a daft option by any means and is hugely stong, but for my money I would still say save and buy ashlocker HOWEVER Whichever you buy fit uprated shafts at the same time Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnarne Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'm running Detroit Locker in the back, and TrueTrac in the Front. The DL and TT is fit and forget. My car was a bit understeered at first after I installed DL and TT, but after I changed some bushes, it helped a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear47.lee Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Ok cheers, I have to save before I get one so ill see if I can save abit extra. How much does it roughly cost to get the locker in the caseing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Or a McNamara, if you can get an original one, think tjm? Bought the rights to build em from Jack, belive build quality is not the same, tho can't confirm that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Ok cheers, I have to save before I get one so ill see if I can save abit extra. How much does it roughly cost to get the locker in the caseing Depends on whether you can do it yourself? One of these http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=260 need one of these too http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Max-4x4-ADVENTURER-12v-Portable-HD-Air-Compressor-/330459651101?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D3762801434711601904%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D170540215200%26 Plus a small air receiver and switching etc, so another £50 for sundries there All in DIY probably £650 ish +/- Seen this which may be better though? http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=259 And at £295 is less than half the price of air lockers, fit and forget, DIY it in for less than £350 delivered........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear47.lee Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Depends on whether you can do it yourself? One of these http://www.ashcroft-...d&productId=260 need one of these too http://www.ebay.co.u...d=170540215200 Plus a small air receiver and switching etc, so another £50 for sundries there All in DIY probably £650 ish +/- Seen this which may be better though? http://www.ashcroft-...d&productId=259 And at £295 is less than half the price of air lockers, fit and forget, DIY it in for less than £350 delivered........ cheers i'll save up and see at the time, how much is it to fit to a diff casing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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